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<blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 2919571" data-attributes="member: 762"><p>This may not be the kind of advice you're looking for but here goes:</p><p></p><p>If you're looking for a fighter/mage/eldritch knight type - warmage does not go well with that.</p><p></p><p>War mages make great heavy artillery -they blast things to a pulp, usually from a distance (rays, area affect spells, etc.)- they don't have the self buff and other defense spells necessary to survive a prolonged hand to hand encounter. Mixing them with fighter just means you're slightly less sub par in melee, but the hit you take to casting far outweighs this benefit. If you want to focus on rays - go straight warmage and take weapon focus ray and precise shot - you should still do fine with touch attacks and you don't take the level hit a fighter/mage takes (minimum 3 levels and while practiced spellcaster helps offset the caster level it does nothing for the lost spells and the delay in getting higher level spells).</p><p></p><p>Another way to say it is: there is little synergy between the warmage and the fighter. The reason a fighter/mage can stay competitive is with spells like shield, enlarge, mirror image, wraithstrike, false life, blink, haste etc. - the warmage gets none of these spells.</p><p></p><p>In short if you want a good fighter/mage take wizard levels, if you want a blaster just stick with straight warmage.</p><p></p><p>In my current game (as a player for the 1st time in 6 years, yay) I'm having a blast with my Ftr1/wizard5/Knight Phantom 2 and can readily say a gish can work - but I rely heavily on spells not available to a warmage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mort, post: 2919571, member: 762"] This may not be the kind of advice you're looking for but here goes: If you're looking for a fighter/mage/eldritch knight type - warmage does not go well with that. War mages make great heavy artillery -they blast things to a pulp, usually from a distance (rays, area affect spells, etc.)- they don't have the self buff and other defense spells necessary to survive a prolonged hand to hand encounter. Mixing them with fighter just means you're slightly less sub par in melee, but the hit you take to casting far outweighs this benefit. If you want to focus on rays - go straight warmage and take weapon focus ray and precise shot - you should still do fine with touch attacks and you don't take the level hit a fighter/mage takes (minimum 3 levels and while practiced spellcaster helps offset the caster level it does nothing for the lost spells and the delay in getting higher level spells). Another way to say it is: there is little synergy between the warmage and the fighter. The reason a fighter/mage can stay competitive is with spells like shield, enlarge, mirror image, wraithstrike, false life, blink, haste etc. - the warmage gets none of these spells. In short if you want a good fighter/mage take wizard levels, if you want a blaster just stick with straight warmage. In my current game (as a player for the 1st time in 6 years, yay) I'm having a blast with my Ftr1/wizard5/Knight Phantom 2 and can readily say a gish can work - but I rely heavily on spells not available to a warmage. [/QUOTE]
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