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<blockquote data-quote="VannATLC" data-source="post: 4232154" data-attributes="member: 60935"><p>sigh*</p><p></p><p>I hate alignment arguments.</p><p></p><p>Unless you want to come to me and tell me you are an objectivist, the whole mess is broken. If you come and tell me you ARE an objectivist, I won't play with you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p><p></p><p>I've always tended to utterly scrap alignment, and all spells based off it. It serves no useful purpose.</p><p></p><p>I have a vampire NPC who fosters and grows a community around him, maintains their safety in an uncertain world, hold fortnightly competitions in physcial and mental skills, then awards the winner with an invitation to a light dinner. At a certain age, the elderly are assisted in writing the memoirs, then drained of blood.</p><p></p><p>He is good for this community. There is no two ways about it. He knows things they would forget in a generation or two, otherwise. He defends them when necessary. Its a true symbiotic relationship, not a parasitic one. Without him, the community would fall within a generation.</p><p></p><p>Why should he be evil? </p><p></p><p>I strongly like the new system, because it allows for a LOT more flexibility.</p><p></p><p>You've got a single axis, this is true. I understand the concerns that chaotic=evil and law=good.</p><p></p><p>However, most of those concerns are bunk. Chaotic things are not anarchists. They are inherently destructive. A person who has an internal code, of any sort, is NOT chaotic. They may care nothing for tradition, or laws, or social mores. But they are not chaotic. Chaotic = Insane.</p><p>I've never been able to comprehend any other meaning. As soon as somebody makes a rational decision based on their own personal beliefs (Ignoring, for the moment, the validity of those beliefs) then they are not a chaotic person.</p><p></p><p>Even then, my little rant is ultimately pointless, as chaos is only an idea that is represented by an incomplete understanding of a system. (I'll grant there is a philosophical possibility of true randominity inherent in what we understand of the truly base levels of existance. Quantum Fluctations and other similar random events.)</p><p></p><p>You can have a character, of course, who is opposed to social laws. An anarchist.</p><p></p><p>Describe them as an anarchist. Not chaotic good.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Korgoth</strong></p><p></p><p>You do no have the scope of knowledge to objectively judge Good or Evil. Or even to define them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VannATLC, post: 4232154, member: 60935"] sigh* I hate alignment arguments. Unless you want to come to me and tell me you are an objectivist, the whole mess is broken. If you come and tell me you ARE an objectivist, I won't play with you. :P I've always tended to utterly scrap alignment, and all spells based off it. It serves no useful purpose. I have a vampire NPC who fosters and grows a community around him, maintains their safety in an uncertain world, hold fortnightly competitions in physcial and mental skills, then awards the winner with an invitation to a light dinner. At a certain age, the elderly are assisted in writing the memoirs, then drained of blood. He is good for this community. There is no two ways about it. He knows things they would forget in a generation or two, otherwise. He defends them when necessary. Its a true symbiotic relationship, not a parasitic one. Without him, the community would fall within a generation. Why should he be evil? I strongly like the new system, because it allows for a LOT more flexibility. You've got a single axis, this is true. I understand the concerns that chaotic=evil and law=good. However, most of those concerns are bunk. Chaotic things are not anarchists. They are inherently destructive. A person who has an internal code, of any sort, is NOT chaotic. They may care nothing for tradition, or laws, or social mores. But they are not chaotic. Chaotic = Insane. I've never been able to comprehend any other meaning. As soon as somebody makes a rational decision based on their own personal beliefs (Ignoring, for the moment, the validity of those beliefs) then they are not a chaotic person. Even then, my little rant is ultimately pointless, as chaos is only an idea that is represented by an incomplete understanding of a system. (I'll grant there is a philosophical possibility of true randominity inherent in what we understand of the truly base levels of existance. Quantum Fluctations and other similar random events.) You can have a character, of course, who is opposed to social laws. An anarchist. Describe them as an anarchist. Not chaotic good. [b]Korgoth[/b] You do no have the scope of knowledge to objectively judge Good or Evil. Or even to define them. [/QUOTE]
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