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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9636297" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>And at what level do we talk sentience? Int of what? A Dolphin, Gnoll (Warrior) and Ogre all have the same Intelligence in 5e... But there are also creatures in MM25 that have beyond human intelligence, apparently it's alright to kill those...</p><p></p><p>I think that people need to let go of sentient/sapient in a fantasy world.</p><p></p><p>My guess is that WotC realized this as well, but there have already been way to many comparisons between Orcs, Drow, etc. and RL ethnic groups. So what they did was handle those with 'kid gloves' and move <em>everything</em> else out of the Humanoid category before someone starts including those monsters also in 'comparisons'... It tastes less like mechanic/thematic changes and more... political/social changes... Don't get me wrong, Goblins as Fey makes sense in a certain way, but not after 50 years of D&D Goblins as Humanoids.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure that someone somewhere will interpret that the Dolphin and Killer Whale being in the MM25 that WotC approves of hunting these animals... <em>facepalm</em></p><p></p><p>I think you just need to use a certain level of 'common sense' in pnp RPGs. If Gnolls are known for eating the local peasants, it's best not to approach them unarmed. Just as you would not go into a known human cannibal den with a shirt that says "Eat me!"... That doesn't mean that every entity in D&D doesn't have it's own ecology, culture, and feelings. It just might be that none of these are compatible with your continued existence (and vice versa). I think that's just what makes fantasy pnp RPGs so interesting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 9636297, member: 725"] And at what level do we talk sentience? Int of what? A Dolphin, Gnoll (Warrior) and Ogre all have the same Intelligence in 5e... But there are also creatures in MM25 that have beyond human intelligence, apparently it's alright to kill those... I think that people need to let go of sentient/sapient in a fantasy world. My guess is that WotC realized this as well, but there have already been way to many comparisons between Orcs, Drow, etc. and RL ethnic groups. So what they did was handle those with 'kid gloves' and move [I]everything[/I] else out of the Humanoid category before someone starts including those monsters also in 'comparisons'... It tastes less like mechanic/thematic changes and more... political/social changes... Don't get me wrong, Goblins as Fey makes sense in a certain way, but not after 50 years of D&D Goblins as Humanoids. I'm sure that someone somewhere will interpret that the Dolphin and Killer Whale being in the MM25 that WotC approves of hunting these animals... [I]facepalm[/I] I think you just need to use a certain level of 'common sense' in pnp RPGs. If Gnolls are known for eating the local peasants, it's best not to approach them unarmed. Just as you would not go into a known human cannibal den with a shirt that says "Eat me!"... That doesn't mean that every entity in D&D doesn't have it's own ecology, culture, and feelings. It just might be that none of these are compatible with your continued existence (and vice versa). I think that's just what makes fantasy pnp RPGs so interesting. [/QUOTE]
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