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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1675756" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>First of all I don't assume. If in your world there's a 9th level wizard every village ready to Teleport you around the world and back, it doesn't mean that everyone's world has. And even if the current D&D trend is as such, that doesn't make it automatic. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Anyway, identifying an exotic animal which is however common in its own environment is not a serious problem. But to wildshape into an animal, I'd like to keep it so that knowing an animal from books or having seen once is not exactly being familiar. Not that I normally bring this out against the players (at least I don't remember to have told a druid that she couldn't wildshape into a chosen form), but if I was playing a druid myself I wouldn't like to turn into a form which has nothing to do with her life just because I want a nifty ability.</p><p></p><p>Here the thread is about toning down the druid class because someone - in their own campaign setting - has the feeling of it being too good. I disagree, but I tossed in my opinion as well and said that the Druid's abilities can be toned up/down without actually changing much in the class, but just by adjudicating those abilities in a more restrictive way. I suggested spells, but wildshape is another possibility, and pushing the player to wildshape only in a few chosen forms can be done with an explanation that actually makes sense.</p><p></p><p>For example, using the hint about GWBush... we all know him and recongnize on sight, but would one be able to disguise himself as him (given the proper tools)? Most likely it'd be difficult, because even if we remembers his face, few can tell the details, how tall is he, how much he weights, how do his hands and feet look like... someone could pass for him against someone else who knows him from tv, but his wife would certainly recognize the real GWB.</p><p>It's perfectly fine if a DM decides to adjudicate Wildshape in the same fashion: to polymorph into an animal, you must have precise knowledge about its anatomy and physiology, unless you want to find out too late that an eagle's wings joints were not exactly the shape you thought <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1675756, member: 1465"] First of all I don't assume. If in your world there's a 9th level wizard every village ready to Teleport you around the world and back, it doesn't mean that everyone's world has. And even if the current D&D trend is as such, that doesn't make it automatic. :) Anyway, identifying an exotic animal which is however common in its own environment is not a serious problem. But to wildshape into an animal, I'd like to keep it so that knowing an animal from books or having seen once is not exactly being familiar. Not that I normally bring this out against the players (at least I don't remember to have told a druid that she couldn't wildshape into a chosen form), but if I was playing a druid myself I wouldn't like to turn into a form which has nothing to do with her life just because I want a nifty ability. Here the thread is about toning down the druid class because someone - in their own campaign setting - has the feeling of it being too good. I disagree, but I tossed in my opinion as well and said that the Druid's abilities can be toned up/down without actually changing much in the class, but just by adjudicating those abilities in a more restrictive way. I suggested spells, but wildshape is another possibility, and pushing the player to wildshape only in a few chosen forms can be done with an explanation that actually makes sense. For example, using the hint about GWBush... we all know him and recongnize on sight, but would one be able to disguise himself as him (given the proper tools)? Most likely it'd be difficult, because even if we remembers his face, few can tell the details, how tall is he, how much he weights, how do his hands and feet look like... someone could pass for him against someone else who knows him from tv, but his wife would certainly recognize the real GWB. It's perfectly fine if a DM decides to adjudicate Wildshape in the same fashion: to polymorph into an animal, you must have precise knowledge about its anatomy and physiology, unless you want to find out too late that an eagle's wings joints were not exactly the shape you thought ;) [/QUOTE]
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