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<blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 9029710" data-attributes="member: 6801776">The druid's had shapeshifting for all 5 of those past 5 editions. It isn't a new thing, and 3 of those editions its been a major druid feature, for at least those specialised into it. The wider RPG zeitgeist equates druid with turning into animals. That's just, the big thing for them at the moment. Sure, nature-based caster is there as well, but shapeshifting is an equal feature. Plus, well, the movie making the druid's big moments all shapechanging and not, spellcasting, and 'accused of affecting two D&amp;D editions' games of Diablo and Warcraft both being big on shapeshifting druids as well for people entering into the D&amp;D space...Yeah, that's, the druid's thing. They're not as powerful healers as clerics, not as powerful full on casters as wizards, not as powerful tanks as fighters, but they can fill in any of those niches in an emergency. Its the same thing as Bards, good at filling in on these fields but not absolute expertsThe problem is being looked at the other way: Non-casters should be getting buffed so they can have stuff to do outside of combat. But, well, that's a massive 5E issue that's longgoing. However, nerfing a player class's feature that's been in the game for 5 editions, is the draw for people playing it, and is widely represented as &quot;This is why you should play this class&quot; in both D&amp;D media and the wider fantasy genre as a whole is just going to make people confused and angryTurn undead didn't get top billing in trailers for a recent popular movie. Shapeshifting did. People coming to D&amp;D after that movie are going to expect &quot;I can turn into an owlbear and throw mooks around&quot;, and anything that doesn't allow for that is a failure on the designer's behalf</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mecheon, post: 9029710, member: 6801776"] The druid's had shapeshifting for all 5 of those past 5 editions. It isn't a new thing, and 3 of those editions its been a major druid feature, for at least those specialised into it. The wider RPG zeitgeist equates druid with turning into animals. That's just, the big thing for them at the moment. Sure, nature-based caster is there as well, but shapeshifting is an equal feature. Plus, well, the movie making the druid's big moments all shapechanging and not, spellcasting, and 'accused of affecting two D&D editions' games of Diablo and Warcraft both being big on shapeshifting druids as well for people entering into the D&D space... Yeah, that's, the druid's thing. They're not as powerful healers as clerics, not as powerful full on casters as wizards, not as powerful tanks as fighters, but they can fill in any of those niches in an emergency. Its the same thing as Bards, good at filling in on these fields but not absolute experts The problem is being looked at the other way: Non-casters should be getting buffed so they can have stuff to do outside of combat. But, well, that's a massive 5E issue that's longgoing. However, nerfing a player class's feature that's been in the game for 5 editions, is the draw for people playing it, and is widely represented as "This is why you should play this class" in both D&D media and the wider fantasy genre as a whole is just going to make people confused and angry Turn undead didn't get top billing in trailers for a recent popular movie. Shapeshifting did. People coming to D&D after that movie are going to expect "I can turn into an owlbear and throw mooks around", and anything that doesn't allow for that is a failure on the designer's behalf [/QUOTE]

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