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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Firebeetle" data-source="post: 2760745" data-attributes="member: 34506">Lastest thinking on the 3.6 BardI like this Crafty Rat, it goes along with my recent thinking.Looking at classes, I think the bard should be based off the rogue and monk.  Both classes have abilities that are gained over time that give that class it's particular flavor.  Bard currently feels more like the bastard child of several other classes; not it's own, unique class.However, there are some great feat ideas out there that would work as abilities.  Here's some basics for what I am suggesting for the 3.6 Bard.Alignment: Any (why nonlawful? why do the keepers of lore and mythology have to be unlawful?  It makes no sense!)Hit Die: d8 (that's the warrior-bit)Class Skills: SameSkills Points (1st and additional): SameBase Attack Bonus: SameSaves: SameSpecial: Abilities at different level To Be DeterminedNo spells!Class FeaturesWeapon and Armor proficiency (same) (note that chainmail is more useful without causing spell failure)Again, No spellsBardic Knowledge is sameBardic Music (expanded with new abilities)I'll try to write out a draft of abilities tonight.  Any suggestions are most welcome!</blockquote>