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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Horwath" data-source="post: 7965700" data-attributes="member: 6801299">that is why we ditced the initiative rolls.enough rolls, you will fail somewhere.And I do not like opposed rolls. d20 is bad die by itself, no need to make it worse."active" player should always roll. others should use their passive score.If you sneak to someone then you roll stealth vs passive perceptio.If they spend action for active perception they roll vs. your passive stealth.And in rare case that someone on watch really uses active perception the whole shift, then, and only then you both roll.But, I've hold watch in military and have seen lots of people doing it. No way in hell are you using active perception unless you hear/see something that already caught your attention.After few hours you can safely give all guards -5 to their passive percetion as they lose focus.And as you said. some targets are more aware(expertise in perception) or sometimes terrain simply does not give a chance for stealth. Or you are an elf with sharpshooter and you take your assassinations like a true sniper from 600ft. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>