Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
"Fixing" d20 Modern - The Definitive Thread
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5492560" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>A topic that has been much on my mind lately: they should probably recalibrate the skill system and/or DCs.</p><p></p><p>In d20 Modern, it's possible to build a 1st level character who can Jump better than our World Record holders. (Amusingly, the best way to do this seems to be using the Dedicated Hero: Skill emphasis for +3, Run feat and Acrobatic feat for +2 each, Athlete background to make Jump a class skill, and 4 ranks. That gives a +11 bonus <em>without</em> any Str bonus at all.)</p><p></p><p>Now, the same feat can be achieved in any version of D&D post 3.0e, in any version of Star Wars, and so on. However, those are all clearly fantastical games. d20 Modern isn't quite the same beast, and it would <em>probably</em> be better to put the limits of real-world human ability somewhere higher on the level range.</p><p></p><p>(It can be achieved two ways: either up the DCs, or reduce the ability to super-optimise characters. Either can work. My preference is <em>probably</em> for the latter, in general, following the 4e/SWSE pattern of advancement in skills. But the designers should probably use the records to set the extreme DCs (30 is good), then decide at what level they want PCs to be able to match this, and then set the options up accordingly.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5492560, member: 22424"] A topic that has been much on my mind lately: they should probably recalibrate the skill system and/or DCs. In d20 Modern, it's possible to build a 1st level character who can Jump better than our World Record holders. (Amusingly, the best way to do this seems to be using the Dedicated Hero: Skill emphasis for +3, Run feat and Acrobatic feat for +2 each, Athlete background to make Jump a class skill, and 4 ranks. That gives a +11 bonus [i]without[/i] any Str bonus at all.) Now, the same feat can be achieved in any version of D&D post 3.0e, in any version of Star Wars, and so on. However, those are all clearly fantastical games. d20 Modern isn't quite the same beast, and it would [i]probably[/i] be better to put the limits of real-world human ability somewhere higher on the level range. (It can be achieved two ways: either up the DCs, or reduce the ability to super-optimise characters. Either can work. My preference is [I]probably[/I] for the latter, in general, following the 4e/SWSE pattern of advancement in skills. But the designers should probably use the records to set the extreme DCs (30 is good), then decide at what level they want PCs to be able to match this, and then set the options up accordingly.) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
"Fixing" d20 Modern - The Definitive Thread
Top