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<blockquote data-quote="Ashtagon" data-source="post: 4558151" data-attributes="member: 72335">No.Realistic is levels 1-6 or so.Parties challenging armies of humans or small colonies of dragons (ie. superhuman) is levels 7-12 or so.Parties entering the depths of Hell and coming back in time for lunch before going for round 2 in the afternoon is levels 13-20.At epic levels, the party should be challenging gods for the right to run a divine sphere of influence, not merely challenging them to a duel, and certainly not be scared of scrambling up a one-mile cliff made of razor blades.Really, so what if a character can make&nbsp; a DC 9000 skill check? Really, the game isn't about winning or losing. It's about making a story. If the character is climbing a mundane wall that a normal human might conceivably fall from, that is not the stuff found in an epic novel worth reading. In game terms, the DM should just be saying &quot;you make it&quot; and get on to the next event that is actually heroic enough to be story-worthy. Sure, that may be story-worthy at low levels, but i don't think any characters of level 1-6 have enough skill points to make such events near-certainties anyway.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashtagon, post: 4558151, member: 72335"] No. Realistic is levels 1-6 or so. Parties challenging armies of humans or small colonies of dragons (ie. superhuman) is levels 7-12 or so. Parties entering the depths of Hell and coming back in time for lunch before going for round 2 in the afternoon is levels 13-20. At epic levels, the party should be challenging gods for the right to run a divine sphere of influence, not merely challenging them to a duel, and certainly not be scared of scrambling up a one-mile cliff made of razor blades. Really, so what if a character can make a DC 9000 skill check? Really, the game isn't about winning or losing. It's about making a story. If the character is climbing a mundane wall that a normal human might conceivably fall from, that is not the stuff found in an epic novel worth reading. In game terms, the DM should just be saying "you make it" and get on to the next event that is actually heroic enough to be story-worthy. Sure, that may be story-worthy at low levels, but i don't think any characters of level 1-6 have enough skill points to make such events near-certainties anyway. [/QUOTE]

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