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<blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 2668897" data-attributes="member: 2358"><p>Well, since you like to spin things against me, I guess I have no choice but to humor you and response to this ridiculous statement.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I stated I could draw and make four attacks in a round. Have you given any thought as to why others haven't tried to attack this point? It's really very simple. The rules even state why. One "attack" is assumed to be several attempted attacks at once, and that's stated in the book. The higher your BAB, the more of those multiple attacks are assumed to have any chance of hitting.</p><p></p><p>My point in stating that was that, in D&D terms, out of fairness I would likely be a Level 1 Commoner. I may fancy myself a decent fighter and better than that, but making it real, I'm not officially trained nor am I a soldier or valiant knight of the old days. Yet, as a Level 1 Commoner, I can effectively "quick draw" (although I can't personally quick sheathe, which is why I felt that's what should truly be included in the Quick Draw feat) and I can make several attacks in the course of six seconds; as such, why should someone who should be FAR more capable than me (anyone having levels in most core classes in fact) and thus able to do everything I can do and more.</p><p></p><p>Basically, you take things too literally. Other people here didn't raise the garbage you raised because they've read the books and they knew what I was trying to get at. I'm not good at presentation of this stuff, so if you take my words absolutely literally, you'll miss the entire point. Others were able to figure it out (even though several disagreed, at least they didn't go on about silly crap like you have), yet you decided to put spin on things by using the most literal meaning of what I said, and you really should know better than to follow literal words verbatum, especially even after I admitted I'm not very good at presentation (except of course in epic novels, and this isn't an epic novel), yet you still pushed it.</p><p></p><p>See how bad I am at presentation? A better orator could have probably said all that in a few sentences, but I always go into such elaborate responses, and that undoubtedly just creates more confusion. Still, I'm not here to make things simple for people who don't understand the first time. Storyteller01, I praised you because, from what I could read, you actually understood exactly what I was talking about and discussed it in a logical manner; also see how nice a discussion it was compared to how I'm having to deal with coredump.</p><p></p><p>Basically, people who take things literally should just stay out of discussions with me, I don't have the patience for people like that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anubis, post: 2668897, member: 2358"] Well, since you like to spin things against me, I guess I have no choice but to humor you and response to this ridiculous statement. Yes, I stated I could draw and make four attacks in a round. Have you given any thought as to why others haven't tried to attack this point? It's really very simple. The rules even state why. One "attack" is assumed to be several attempted attacks at once, and that's stated in the book. The higher your BAB, the more of those multiple attacks are assumed to have any chance of hitting. My point in stating that was that, in D&D terms, out of fairness I would likely be a Level 1 Commoner. I may fancy myself a decent fighter and better than that, but making it real, I'm not officially trained nor am I a soldier or valiant knight of the old days. Yet, as a Level 1 Commoner, I can effectively "quick draw" (although I can't personally quick sheathe, which is why I felt that's what should truly be included in the Quick Draw feat) and I can make several attacks in the course of six seconds; as such, why should someone who should be FAR more capable than me (anyone having levels in most core classes in fact) and thus able to do everything I can do and more. Basically, you take things too literally. Other people here didn't raise the garbage you raised because they've read the books and they knew what I was trying to get at. I'm not good at presentation of this stuff, so if you take my words absolutely literally, you'll miss the entire point. Others were able to figure it out (even though several disagreed, at least they didn't go on about silly crap like you have), yet you decided to put spin on things by using the most literal meaning of what I said, and you really should know better than to follow literal words verbatum, especially even after I admitted I'm not very good at presentation (except of course in epic novels, and this isn't an epic novel), yet you still pushed it. See how bad I am at presentation? A better orator could have probably said all that in a few sentences, but I always go into such elaborate responses, and that undoubtedly just creates more confusion. Still, I'm not here to make things simple for people who don't understand the first time. Storyteller01, I praised you because, from what I could read, you actually understood exactly what I was talking about and discussed it in a logical manner; also see how nice a discussion it was compared to how I'm having to deal with coredump. Basically, people who take things literally should just stay out of discussions with me, I don't have the patience for people like that. [/QUOTE]
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