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<blockquote data-quote="Clay_More" data-source="post: 746527" data-attributes="member: 9813"><p>We could always take the ancient cultures a bit at a time, to get some good ideas and a solid foundation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Example Of Ancient Egypt</p><p></p><p>Food Normally Eaten</p><p>* fish, from the richly populated Nile, the Fayum and the marshes </p><p>* birds (geese etc.) </p><p>* meat from cattle, but also from gazelles... </p><p>* bread and pastry </p><p>* an abundance of vegetables and spices</p><p></p><p>The following is considered "Good Food"</p><p></p><p>* figs </p><p>* grapes </p><p>* sycamore figs </p><p>* notched sycamore figs </p><p>* cucumber </p><p>* fish </p><p>* birds </p><p></p><p>The following is said by Diodorus during 22 nd. Dynasty</p><p></p><p><em>Sesonchosis created an elite of the most robust men... he raised 600,000 footsoldiers, 24,000 knights, 27,000 war chariots. He shared government with the companions of his youth, all experienced at fighting, full of bravery, numbering 1700 and more. Sesonchosis gave them the best land so they could devote themselves entirely to war, being economically secure. </em></p><p></p><p>So, the ancient Egyptians didn't have the separation between military & peasantry that existed later. Instead, they would give Rich lands to those that were to serve in the military, so that they could more easily provide for themselves and their family. The separation in Ancient Egypt between food-producing population to non-food producing population was actually 6:1. The Nile was bountiful and provided an ample supply of food. Many of those that were not counted amongst the food-producing population were slaves that were given a minimum of food most of the time, which is why the ratio is as it is (compared to medieval europe where most of the non-producing population was artisans, nobility and clergy that actually consumed more ressources than the food-producing population). </p><p></p><p>A very important factor in an Demographical survey is the presence of slaves. Slaves supply a work force that can be sustained with a minimum of food and with cheap living quarters. </p><p></p><p>Anyways, ill get back to this thread later, lets get it right this time <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Clay_More, post: 746527, member: 9813"] We could always take the ancient cultures a bit at a time, to get some good ideas and a solid foundation. Example Of Ancient Egypt Food Normally Eaten * fish, from the richly populated Nile, the Fayum and the marshes * birds (geese etc.) * meat from cattle, but also from gazelles... * bread and pastry * an abundance of vegetables and spices The following is considered "Good Food" * figs * grapes * sycamore figs * notched sycamore figs * cucumber * fish * birds The following is said by Diodorus during 22 nd. Dynasty [I]Sesonchosis created an elite of the most robust men... he raised 600,000 footsoldiers, 24,000 knights, 27,000 war chariots. He shared government with the companions of his youth, all experienced at fighting, full of bravery, numbering 1700 and more. Sesonchosis gave them the best land so they could devote themselves entirely to war, being economically secure. [/I] So, the ancient Egyptians didn't have the separation between military & peasantry that existed later. Instead, they would give Rich lands to those that were to serve in the military, so that they could more easily provide for themselves and their family. The separation in Ancient Egypt between food-producing population to non-food producing population was actually 6:1. The Nile was bountiful and provided an ample supply of food. Many of those that were not counted amongst the food-producing population were slaves that were given a minimum of food most of the time, which is why the ratio is as it is (compared to medieval europe where most of the non-producing population was artisans, nobility and clergy that actually consumed more ressources than the food-producing population). A very important factor in an Demographical survey is the presence of slaves. Slaves supply a work force that can be sustained with a minimum of food and with cheap living quarters. Anyways, ill get back to this thread later, lets get it right this time :) [/QUOTE]
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