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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7827785" data-attributes="member: 15700">Time to repeat a story I’ve said often over the past few years. You’ve probably heard it already. One of my favorite PCs from 1e was my halfling fighter thief. When 5e came along, I converted him to a single class fighter with the urchin background and skulker feat (when he hit level 4). Played exactly the same as the 1e version (sneaky fighter), and there was no noticeable lack of combat skills. A dex based champion fighter still had action surge, still had second wind, still did good damage, still got fighting styles, and had exploration ability that was second only to the rogueFrogreaver is one of those who has definitely given me the impression over the past few years that unless you optimize, you’re not effective. So take that in context of this thread.</blockquote>