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<blockquote data-quote="Salthorae" data-source="post: 7828515" data-attributes="member: 1095">Yes, one more Expertise and one more skill. Cunning action is a combat only ability. If you use Cunning Action at 2nd level, you're not using crossbow expert.Show me your math that your crossbow expert is doing 50% more damage.Best I see is 27% more if you manage to trigger sneak attack. if you don't trigger sneak attack the damage is the exact same. If you use your Cunning Action and trigger sneak attack your rogue is doing 22% less damage. If you use your cunning action and don't manage to trigger sneak attack then the rogue is doing 50% less damage. A rogue has too many things to do with their bonus action to use the bonus attack from Crossbow Expert every round after level 2. A rogue is also not always going to trigger sneak attack. A fighter is hitting every round.So a rogue who invested in being better at combat looks roughly on par with a fighter who invested in being better at non-combat.That doesn't bother me.If the rogue invested in being more rogue-ish than improving their combat ability and they were on par with the fighter damage or better, that would bother me. But they're not. As soon as you take away the bonus action crossbow attack. The rogue lags behind regardless of sneak attack.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Salthorae, post: 7828515, member: 1095"] Yes, one more Expertise and one more skill. Cunning action is a combat only ability. If you use Cunning Action at 2nd level, you're not using crossbow expert. Show me your math that your crossbow expert is doing 50% more damage. Best I see is 27% more if you manage to trigger sneak attack. if you don't trigger sneak attack the damage is the exact same. If you use your Cunning Action and trigger sneak attack your rogue is doing 22% less damage. If you use your cunning action and don't manage to trigger sneak attack then the rogue is doing 50% less damage. A rogue has too many things to do with their bonus action to use the bonus attack from Crossbow Expert every round after level 2. A rogue is also not always going to trigger sneak attack. A fighter is hitting every round. So a rogue who invested in being better at combat looks roughly on par with a fighter who invested in being better at non-combat. That doesn't bother me. If the rogue invested in being more rogue-ish than improving their combat ability and they were on par with the fighter damage or better, that would bother me. But they're not. As soon as you take away the bonus action crossbow attack. The rogue lags behind regardless of sneak attack. [/QUOTE]

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