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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7828632" data-attributes="member: 177">Mod Note:Good gods, what a mess.&nbsp; Let us try a few new ground rules:1) The next persons to use the word &quot;strawman&quot; (or reasonable facsimile thereof), or to accuse another of trolling, can expect to get booted out of the thread.2) If your argument is of the form, &quot;the fighter is just fine, and you should do nothing to change it&quot;, please just leave the thread entirely.&nbsp; You are the dad from the LEGO movie - insisting that the toys must be used in only one way.&nbsp; You are getting in the way of building stuff.&nbsp; Please stop.2a) If your argument is that you feel the fighter is just fine for you, but you understand others might not see it your way, and you want to help - you are okay, and can stay.&nbsp; Helping may take the form of making others aware of things about the fighter that they seem to be overlooking, but again, if you being to badger anyone about things... out you are going to go.3) All board rules still apply - be respectful at all times.&nbsp; If you see someone breaking these addendums, please report them, rather than get into an argument.&nbsp; Also, consider using the ignore feature - you can just choose to not see posts from folks who are just getting in your way.&nbsp; But if you do so, don't make a public announcement.&nbsp; Just do it, and carry on with your life.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7828632, member: 177"] [color=red][b]Mod Note:[/b] Good gods, what a mess. Let us try a few new ground rules: 1) The next persons to use the word "strawman" (or reasonable facsimile thereof), or to accuse another of trolling, can expect to get booted out of the thread. 2) If your argument is of the form, "the fighter is just fine, and you should do nothing to change it", please just leave the thread entirely. You are the dad from the LEGO movie - insisting that the toys must be used in only one way. You are getting in the way of building stuff. Please stop. 2a) If your argument is that you feel the fighter is just fine for you, but you understand others might not see it your way, and you want to help - you are okay, and can stay. Helping may take the form of making others aware of things about the fighter that they seem to be overlooking, but again, if you being to badger anyone about things... out you are going to go. 3) All board rules still apply - be respectful at all times. If you see someone breaking these addendums, please report them, rather than get into an argument. Also, consider using the ignore feature - you can just choose to not see posts from folks who are just getting in your way. But if you do so, don't make a public announcement. Just do it, and carry on with your life.[/color] [/QUOTE]

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