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<blockquote data-quote="Salamandyr" data-source="post: 6745605" data-attributes="member: 40233">Thinking more about this; someone mentioned above that the fighter gives up all utility outside of combat (in the Exploration and Social pillars of the game).&nbsp; This is not exactly true.&nbsp; The fighter has the same skill access as other characters, and for a strength based fighter with training in Athletics there is basically no physical obstacle he cannot overcome.&nbsp; But it is true that there is no way for him to be the &quot;the best&quot; at those things.&nbsp; The Barbarian gets advantage on Strength checks, and Bards and Rogues get expertise, and magic often negates the need to make a skill check in the first place.&nbsp; There is little reason beyond vanity to pump Charisma, so even trained, the fighter's social skills will be behind (though not far behind another character for whom social skills are important, but not central to their character--like a rogue who hasn't designated expertise to social skills).What would be a good way to remedy this?&nbsp; Is it even necessary?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Salamandyr, post: 6745605, member: 40233"] Thinking more about this; someone mentioned above that the fighter gives up all utility outside of combat (in the Exploration and Social pillars of the game). This is not exactly true. The fighter has the same skill access as other characters, and for a strength based fighter with training in Athletics there is basically no physical obstacle he cannot overcome. But it is true that there is no way for him to be the "the best" at those things. The Barbarian gets advantage on Strength checks, and Bards and Rogues get expertise, and magic often negates the need to make a skill check in the first place. There is little reason beyond vanity to pump Charisma, so even trained, the fighter's social skills will be behind (though not far behind another character for whom social skills are important, but not central to their character--like a rogue who hasn't designated expertise to social skills). What would be a good way to remedy this? Is it even necessary? [/QUOTE]

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