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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 7840326" data-attributes="member: 23">The problem with the fighter class in 5e is, IMO, it's too much about fighting, and not enough about what the fighter endure to earn those fighting skills, and what they learned on the way.Consider, if you will, the Zouave:[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Zouave1888.jpg[/URL]This guy is a veteran.&nbsp; That means he's a survivor.&nbsp; He's seen combat, illness, injury, low supplies, ambushes (from both sides), retreats, city sacking and survived. This guy is also a campaigner.&nbsp;&nbsp; He knows things.&nbsp; He knows how to dig a latrine.&nbsp; He knows how to cook something of dubious quality and make it edible.&nbsp; He knows that this is just the place where the cavalry is going to charge through and we should get the hell out of here.&nbsp; He knows how to bribe a dog, or a judge.&nbsp; He knows what tool to carry with him and what to leave behind.&nbsp; He knows how to use each of said tools to solve at least 3 different problems.Lastly he's well traveled.&nbsp; He's been places.&nbsp; He knows the basics in a smattering of languages.&nbsp; He's eaten foreign foods and strange alcohols.&nbsp; He's been on a boat, maybe survived a wreck or two.&nbsp; He knows other cultures, what they want, how they think.The fighter should have these properties in 5e.&nbsp;&nbsp; I was talking about this the other day on the OSR, and it looks like I inspired someone because they came out with this stunning piece of work:[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://as-they-must.blogspot.com/2019/10/gun-on-your-shoulder-class-fighter.html[/URL](edit:&nbsp; this is a class for the GLOG system, just to be clear)Now, can we do this in 5e?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 7840326, member: 23"] The problem with the fighter class in 5e is, IMO, it's too much about fighting, and not enough about what the fighter endure to earn those fighting skills, and what they learned on the way. Consider, if you will, the Zouave: [URL unfurl="true"]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Zouave1888.jpg[/URL] This guy is a veteran. That means he's a [I]survivor[/I]. He's seen combat, illness, injury, low supplies, ambushes (from both sides), retreats, city sacking and [I]survived[/I]. This guy is also a [I]campaigner[/I]. He knows things. He knows how to dig a latrine. He knows how to cook something of dubious quality and make it edible. He knows that this is just the place where the cavalry is going to charge through and we should get the hell out of here. He knows how to bribe a dog, or a judge. He knows what tool to carry with him and what to leave behind. He knows how to use each of said tools to solve at least 3 different problems. Lastly he's [I]well traveled[/I]. He's been places. He knows the basics in a smattering of languages. He's eaten foreign foods and strange alcohols. He's been on a boat, maybe survived a wreck or two. He knows other cultures, what they want, how they think. The fighter should have these properties in 5e. I was talking about this the other day on the OSR, and it looks like I inspired someone because they came out with this stunning piece of work: [URL unfurl="true"]https://as-they-must.blogspot.com/2019/10/gun-on-your-shoulder-class-fighter.html[/URL] (edit: this is a class for the GLOG system, just to be clear) Now, can we do this in 5e? [/QUOTE]

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