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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7841474" data-attributes="member: 15700">It doesn’t take system mastery to decide to use a feat on dungeon delver, or actor. It doesn’t have some super appeal to new players (most people I taught over the years preferred casters or other magical classes because magic was more fantastical than emulating real life combat skills).&nbsp; And experienced players who like the class don’t all agree it has shortcomings.I swear, it’s like some people can’t help but take digs at others’ integrity if they don't share your preferences.like every other class, people play it to play an archetype they want, and choose what skills, feats, etc based on that vision. And the vast majority are perfectly happy. They aren’t just newbies or veterans who secretly admit it’s broken somehow. I imagine most are like me. One of my favorite PCs is a halfling fighter who has the urchin background, dungeon delver feat, and skulker feat. I’m certainly no newbie, and I certainly don’t think the fighter class has short comings. It does exactly what I want it to do with the role I have in my head for who the character is. I think a whole lot of players are like me: not worried about optimization but build characters based on theme.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7841474, member: 15700"] It doesn’t take system mastery to decide to use a feat on dungeon delver, or actor. It doesn’t have some super appeal to new players (most people I taught over the years preferred casters or other magical classes because magic was more fantastical than emulating real life combat skills). And experienced players who like the class don’t all agree it has shortcomings. I swear, it’s like some people can’t help but take digs at others’ integrity if they don't share your preferences. like every other class, people play it to play an archetype they want, and choose what skills, feats, etc based on that vision. And the vast majority are perfectly happy. They aren’t just newbies or veterans who secretly admit it’s broken somehow. I imagine most are like me. One of my favorite PCs is a halfling fighter who has the urchin background, dungeon delver feat, and skulker feat. I’m certainly no newbie, and I certainly don’t think the fighter class has short comings. It does exactly what I want it to do with the role I have in my head for who the character is. I think a whole lot of players are like me: not worried about optimization but build characters based on theme. [/QUOTE]

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