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<blockquote data-quote="Don Durito" data-source="post: 7841867" data-attributes="member: 6687260">Well every other class either does expertise or supernatural abilities (except for some Barbarians - but even most of them end up with rituals).Fighters should get Expertise - if their contribution outside of combat is meant to be skill based.&nbsp; Because that's how you get a secondary role that's actually worth something.Obviously there's a reason why Rogues and Bards were given it - because they are traditionally the classes that are good at skills and the skill system really does need expertise to patch it.But Rogues and Bards are now able to contribute to combat effectively.&nbsp; The extent to which they can now contribute to combat has been improved in a manner disproportionate to the extent that FIghters have gained non-combat ability.And people may report being satisfied with the class, but they'd probably be just as satisfied if Fighters got say, Expertise in one skill.&nbsp; Because people don't usually mind their characters being better,</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Don Durito, post: 7841867, member: 6687260"] Well every other class either does expertise or supernatural abilities (except for some Barbarians - but even most of them end up with rituals). Fighters[I] should[/I] get Expertise - if their contribution outside of combat is meant to be skill based. Because that's how you get a secondary role that's actually worth something. Obviously there's a reason why Rogues and Bards were given it - because they are traditionally the classes that are good at skills and the skill system really does need expertise to patch it. But Rogues and Bards are now able to contribute to combat effectively. The extent to which they can now contribute to combat has been improved in a manner disproportionate to the extent that FIghters have gained non-combat ability. And people may report being satisfied with the class, but they'd probably be just as satisfied if Fighters got say, Expertise in one skill. Because people don't usually mind their characters being better, [/QUOTE]

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