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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 7842407" data-attributes="member: 7015698">That's still not the default assumption of the books. Lv 1 characters are competent. The numbers are scaled with that concept in mind, including the enemies a Lv 1 party is expected to face. If you treat them as brand new commoner, you're just shifting the frame of reference. A Level 1 party can go up to level 5 in only a few weeks of in-game time and take on a young dragon. That, to me, implies at least a certain amount of experience BEFORE level 1.It's not that it can't be done, but that it's not the default fluff, and that default fluff informs the abilities of a class. People under evaluate the strength of martial characters because they don't consider the default fluff's frame of reference when it come to strength and range of ability. I was arguing with Sacrosanct that people still view the fighter as the commoner with a sword and showed you as one exemple, mostly because you were right there and it was easy. It wasn't any sort of blame put on you.Sacrosanct never acknowledged it either...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 7842407, member: 7015698"] That's still not the default assumption of the books. Lv 1 characters are competent. The numbers are scaled with that concept in mind, including the enemies a Lv 1 party is expected to face. If you treat them as brand new commoner, you're just shifting the frame of reference. A Level 1 party can go up to level 5 in only a few weeks of in-game time and take on a young dragon. That, to me, implies at least a certain amount of experience BEFORE level 1. It's not that it can't be done, but that it's not the default fluff, and that default fluff informs the abilities of a class. People under evaluate the strength of martial characters because they don't consider the default fluff's frame of reference when it come to strength and range of ability. I was arguing with Sacrosanct that people still view the fighter as the commoner with a sword and showed you as one exemple, mostly because you were right there and it was easy. It wasn't any sort of blame put on you. Sacrosanct never acknowledged it either... [/QUOTE]

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