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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7842813" data-attributes="member: 6801845">Just so I don't have to repeat myself every other sentence, the following only applies to games that I personally DM.&nbsp; Whether you and your group consider the class fluff rules or just general guidelines is pretty arbitrary.In D&amp;D it takes proficiency to wear heavy armor and to use martial weapons.&nbsp; Barring an unusual past that training has to come from somewhere.&nbsp; If that blacksmith is a variant human who is a master at pole arm fighting someone had to teach them.&nbsp; They at least had someone they sparred with.On the other hand if that blacksmith that becomes a fighter only ever uses a hammer and maybe the dueling style or great weapon fighter (depending on whether they pick up a war hammer or a sledge) for a little extra damage.&nbsp; After all they've been using hammers forever.&nbsp; It even makes sense that they may know more about armor than the average Joe because they test their own wares.Of course as with all things D&amp;D, if we look at things too closely they don't really make a lot of sense.&nbsp; Yes, your dude is a fighter that's good with a hammer.&nbsp; Why does that suddenly make them competent with a long bow or a rapier?&nbsp; It's just one of those things that I accept (like HP) because it's easy and good enough for it to not be completely ridiculous.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7842813, member: 6801845"] Just so I don't have to repeat myself every other sentence, the following only applies to games that I personally DM. Whether you and your group consider the class fluff rules or just general guidelines is pretty arbitrary. In D&D it takes proficiency to wear heavy armor and to use martial weapons. Barring an unusual past that training has to come from somewhere. If that blacksmith is a variant human who is a master at pole arm fighting someone had to teach them. They at least had someone they sparred with. On the other hand if that blacksmith that becomes a fighter only ever uses a hammer and maybe the dueling style or great weapon fighter (depending on whether they pick up a war hammer or a sledge) for a little extra damage. After all they've been using hammers forever. It even makes sense that they may know more about armor than the average Joe because they test their own wares. Of course as with all things D&D, if we look at things too closely they don't really make a lot of sense. Yes, your dude is a fighter that's good with a hammer. Why does that suddenly make them competent with a long bow or a rapier? It's just one of those things that I accept (like HP) because it's easy and good enough for it to not be completely ridiculous. [/QUOTE]

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