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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 6068053" data-attributes="member: 58416">What I perceived previous posts to be implying was that the D&amp;D 4th Edition fighter lacks versatility and that it is difficult to effectively played a D&amp;D 4th Edition character based around ranged attacks.&nbsp; I find both of those things to be (in my opinion) false.&nbsp; I find the D&amp;D 4th Edition fighter to be one of the most versatile defenders in the game.I brought up classes because... well, D&amp;D is a class based system.&nbsp; It seems odd to me to choose a class which is built (primarily) for melee and then ask why it's not as good as a class based around ranged combat at using ranged weapons.&nbsp; If your answer to that is that class shouldn't be so restricting, then I wonder why you're playing a game which is so heavily tied to the concept of classes.&nbsp; If none of that is satisfactory, then I suppose I'd suggest speaking to the GM about what he's willing to do for you.&nbsp; I see no reason why it would be game breaking to ask if you could take the ranger class, but swap out some of the rangery stuff (spells and animal companion) for different features (perhaps better armor proficiency and some bonus feats.)&nbsp; In fact, the D&amp;D 3rd Edition DM's Guide suggests doing exactly that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 6068053, member: 58416"] What I perceived previous posts to be implying was that the D&D 4th Edition fighter lacks versatility and that it is difficult to effectively played a D&D 4th Edition character based around ranged attacks. I find both of those things to be (in my opinion) false. I find the D&D 4th Edition fighter to be one of the most versatile defenders in the game. I brought up classes because... well, D&D is a class based system. It seems odd to me to choose a class which is built (primarily) for melee and then ask why it's not as good as a class based around ranged combat at using ranged weapons. If your answer to that is that class shouldn't be so restricting, then I wonder why you're playing a game which is so heavily tied to the concept of classes. If none of that is satisfactory, then I suppose I'd suggest speaking to the GM about what he's willing to do for you. I see no reason why it would be game breaking to ask if you could take the ranger class, but swap out some of the rangery stuff (spells and animal companion) for different features (perhaps better armor proficiency and some bonus feats.) In fact, the D&D 3rd Edition DM's Guide suggests doing exactly that. [/QUOTE]

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