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<blockquote data-quote="Warbringer" data-source="post: 6068614" data-attributes="member: 14391">I think it's a shame that very articulate posters are disengaging, as there is a very important discussion for next to resolve.... Should xd have he ability to create the more &quot; magical&quot; (to refer to effects in the reach of magic 1-3, bo9s exc) ... Because this mechanic (or class features ala monk) will likely Bethesda tool.The debate as highlighted by CaGI, though present in so many other powers from stun, to heal, to blind, to immobilize, to mark, to cause fear or frightened . Are the essence of the debate.I haven't played 4e since 2008 (many things i didnt like), but have most books, and must admit I love that the player takes ownership I the story narrative ... To this extent my home brew system, which allows style (combat) and spell (magic) power building ... Build your own powers bottom up.... Allows access to blind, and stun, and shadow step, and knockback and knockdown .... Hell, even to blur and healing word.... But all players need a narrative reason why this is the case .... A little bit of mother may I, but for story and world protection.... We usually work out a narrative together ...It's a critical walkway issue for. Oth 4e and per 4e and next needs a solve</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warbringer, post: 6068614, member: 14391"] I think it's a shame that very articulate posters are disengaging, as there is a very important discussion for next to resolve.... Should xd have he ability to create the more " magical" (to refer to effects in the reach of magic 1-3, bo9s exc) ... Because this mechanic (or class features ala monk) will likely Bethesda tool. The debate as highlighted by CaGI, though present in so many other powers from stun, to heal, to blind, to immobilize, to mark, to cause fear or frightened . Are the essence of the debate. I haven't played 4e since 2008 (many things i didnt like), but have most books, and must admit I love that the player takes ownership I the story narrative ... To this extent my home brew system, which allows style (combat) and spell (magic) power building ... Build your own powers bottom up.... Allows access to blind, and stun, and shadow step, and knockback and knockdown .... Hell, even to blur and healing word.... But all players need a narrative reason why this is the case .... A little bit of mother may I, but for story and world protection.... We usually work out a narrative together ... It's a critical walkway issue for. Oth 4e and per 4e and next needs a solve [/QUOTE]

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