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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6068680" data-attributes="member: 6696971">All respect to Obryn, I don't see how that could be fiat.  Its not fiat any more than a Wizard casting a single target attack spell, rolling to hit, and doing damage.  Precisely.  This is fiat.  That is what my posts outlined.  There is no metagame leveraged in interfacing with the basic attack system.Wow.  You have not been keeping score if that is your sense of things.  In this very thread its readily available (amongst dozens others that you have been a part of).  Its connotation is irrelevant.  Its a very real thing.  Its my understanding that you are not of age to have been playing D&D before 3e.  As such, its highly unlikely that you've been saturated by the D&D culture's intense antipathy for metagame play from the late 80s with the "Dragonlancing" of AD&D.  Saying that the greater D&D culture has had a visceral reaction to metagaming from 2e onward is akin to saying "water is wet."  I mean, this isn't even controversial.  A considerable portion of the anti-4e sentiment is an exact byproduct of 4e's friendliness toward the metagame; and you can see it in this thread writ large (and plenty of others that you have participated in).  I'm a bit baffled at your response here.  What I wrote isn't even close to provocation.  Its blatant truth.  It doesn't mean that being antagonistic toward the metagame is badwrongfun...nor does it mean that endorsing it is goodrightawesome.  Its just categorically true of the D&D culture.Meanwhile, the response of "Because I want to" which is observably and patently destructive to a table...is pretty self-evident; don't you think?  I mean if you asked your player "How did you do that", what would you say to them when they belligerently proffer "Because I want to" as narrative justification/resolution for the  action in question?How you can compare those two is beyond me.  Read the thread again (and any other thread regarding metagame mechanics/agenda) and tell me that D&D culture is not viscerally opposed to metagame play...demanding the tools that make it available to be excised from canon.</blockquote>

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