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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 6071036" data-attributes="member: 6668292"><p>I'm glad we're good <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Unless the mechanical interfaced used to resolve improvised attacks bypassed the GM. The GM could still have a vital role to the game; setting up scenes, RPing NPCs, setting up challenges, pushing themes, etc.</p><p></p><p>I think the term "player fiat" is rather new, but I think it's easy enough to grok. For me, at least; that says nothing about whether or not my take on the term is somehow superior.</p><p></p><p>Well, I think it is binary, but there's still different levels of how "mother may I" it can be. That's why I've mentioned page 42 being "mother may I", but with strong support for players, and I agreed with pemerton that it aids player agency (when compared to being completely absent).</p><p></p><p>I separate it from player agency, but I see a lot of nuance in words. They have different meanings, or at least implications. I clash quite often with a close friend over this; where I try to use words with great precision, he strives to use words as interchangeably as possible. To him, getting it "close enough" is the point of language. I, however, quite like the precision words can bring, as that helps me communicate more clearly (in my own mind, at least). It's not uncommon for me to post "well, the dictionary says this" on these boards, with the inevitable "the dictionary got used, discussion is over" replies it brings.</p><p></p><p>Sorry for the tangent. I'm not sure what the right definition for the term is, but that's how I see "player fiat" and "mother may I", at least. Thanks for the civil discussion, and I'm glad I didn't offend you. And you most certainly didn't offend me. I'd XP you, but we've done that to one another already once this conversation (even if it's hidden). Hopefully I get the chance after another good discussion. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 6071036, member: 6668292"] I'm glad we're good :) Unless the mechanical interfaced used to resolve improvised attacks bypassed the GM. The GM could still have a vital role to the game; setting up scenes, RPing NPCs, setting up challenges, pushing themes, etc. I think the term "player fiat" is rather new, but I think it's easy enough to grok. For me, at least; that says nothing about whether or not my take on the term is somehow superior. Well, I think it is binary, but there's still different levels of how "mother may I" it can be. That's why I've mentioned page 42 being "mother may I", but with strong support for players, and I agreed with pemerton that it aids player agency (when compared to being completely absent). I separate it from player agency, but I see a lot of nuance in words. They have different meanings, or at least implications. I clash quite often with a close friend over this; where I try to use words with great precision, he strives to use words as interchangeably as possible. To him, getting it "close enough" is the point of language. I, however, quite like the precision words can bring, as that helps me communicate more clearly (in my own mind, at least). It's not uncommon for me to post "well, the dictionary says this" on these boards, with the inevitable "the dictionary got used, discussion is over" replies it brings. Sorry for the tangent. I'm not sure what the right definition for the term is, but that's how I see "player fiat" and "mother may I", at least. Thanks for the civil discussion, and I'm glad I didn't offend you. And you most certainly didn't offend me. I'd XP you, but we've done that to one another already once this conversation (even if it's hidden). Hopefully I get the chance after another good discussion. As always, play what you like :) [/QUOTE]
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