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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thia Halmades" data-source="post: 2647853" data-attributes="member: 35863">Argh.  First: No flame intended, Nyaricus.  Sorry if it came off that way, my way of expressing that the thread had gone off topic and we were no longer discussing possible fixes to the racial package, but had spun off into something else entirely, which was an excellent discussion, to be honest, but not the nature of the post.  What I get for typing while frustrated.Anyone who thought I was snarky: That was me.  My bad.  [Moo, moo moo].On topic: One of the core discussion which have arisen from this discussion are whether the +1/-1 variant works; I fall on the side that it doesn't.  With the question "when you roll stats you get something for nothing" I almost agree with that, except I'm the guy who nerfs stat rolls to balance them out without completely removing the individuality.  I'm also leaning more and more towards a build system rather than a roll system, so that +2/-2 becomes that much more critical.Ah, see, that's the big part I disagree with.  IMO they just don't work; they aren't mathematically viable compared to any other race (including the surprisingly beefy human, with its extra feat & skills.  Darkvision, shmarkvision, gimme the feat).  I'm content with the last version I posted, which was +2 STR, -2 INT, Scent Feat option at 1st level, STR to be used in place of CHA for Intimidate checks (whichever is higher) and the Endurance feat for free at 1st.  I also really liked the limitations on their CHA based checks without gimping their CHA straight out, I thought that was excellent.Thoughts?LCpt. Thia Halmades</blockquote>

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