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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thia Halmades" data-source="post: 2654315" data-attributes="member: 35863">So actually, I got there first (see thread one.)  So... nyah.  Nub the point, though.  I see what Felix is saying; yes, Half-Orcs are a niche race, but I don't like niche races.  That's me, and my strongly held opinion.  Limited?  Sure.  Gimped?  Not so much.  I do thank everyone for their input, and I think Feldspar has some good ideas, but for me and my part:That's the blend of Nyaricus & Li Shenron saying the same thing, and I agree with it.  It keeps them "unsocial" without being effed on the CHA front.  I also believe that they COULD develop Sorcerors, and it almost makes sense for them to do so.Looking at the two side-by-side, I'll go with Feldspar on this one.  It gives the flexibility I'm looking for without over-powering them, and reflecting my concept of "bred for war."  My original concept in giving them Racial weapons was as a Racial Memory, and I may keep that for another campaign setting, but as a standing HR, the nod goes to Feldspar for balance and simplicity (I'm big on simplicity).I can see removing Scent, but in terms of "no other race gets it" that's pretty much why I gave it to them.  I see these people as animalistic, natural hunters close to their roots; a sentient species bred and ready for war at any given moment, capable of finding their targets under almost any circumstance.  I gave it to them for that express purpose.Endurance is my way of reflecting that they're simply hardier and tougher than most other races, without giving them the +2 CON (my original fix was simply to give them +2 CON and be done with it, but it was unbalanced the wrong way).  And, by extension, if they get Endurance from elsewhere they automatically get Die Hard instead.  Again, reflecting a warrior nature and a refusal to freakin' die.  So that's being kept for my purposes.Favored Class: Ranger.  How close am I to saying "Fighter" instead?  Quite.  But I prefer the flexibility of Rangers and Fighter is a go-to class for everyone ANYWAY when it comes to war, and the stat boosts and ties to nature represent more how I view Orcs than how may be close-to-canon such as Barbarians.  Almost seems like Barbarian is favored because they start off illiterate.  Nonsense.  If we're assuming that Half-Orcs are generally raised in society, then they're more inclined to be Rangers.+2 Racial bonus to: Survival, Intimidate, Sense MotiveAnd ... yeah, that's it.  For now.  New thoughts?LCpt. Thia Halmades</blockquote>

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