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<blockquote data-quote="yennico" data-source="post: 2022972" data-attributes="member: 11978"><p>This are just my 2 cents. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>A half-orc is either a child of two half-orcs or an orc and a human.</p><p>If you calculate the stats and benefits of a half-orcs you have a half-orc with 50% of the abilities of an orc and 50% of the abilties of a human.</p><p>If you want to improve the half-orc you logically have to improve also the orc.</p><p>If you give a half-orc +X on a skill an orc will have to get +2X on that skill.</p><p></p><p>If you want to make a difference between a half-orc raised by humans and a half-orc raised by orcs you also have to make the same difference by a half-elf.</p><p>But if education of different races makes a difference to a player character think of an orc raised by humans. Does the orc gets the advantage of any favorite class... ? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>You can give a half-orc more advantages of one race of his parents but you do not justify this with their education. A correct cause is this half-orc has not only 50% of the genes of one of his parents, he has 51 or more % of this race. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I like some of your ideas (toughness, Survival, etc.) but I dislike dropping the Cha penalty.</p><p>Orcs and Half-orcs are not known for their diplomacy and their magic.</p><p>A half-orc with Cha 18, raised by humans <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />, thinking of a bard or a rogue with many ranks in diplomacy or a sorcerer is not a character I want in one of my groups. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="yennico, post: 2022972, member: 11978"] This are just my 2 cents. :) A half-orc is either a child of two half-orcs or an orc and a human. If you calculate the stats and benefits of a half-orcs you have a half-orc with 50% of the abilities of an orc and 50% of the abilties of a human. If you want to improve the half-orc you logically have to improve also the orc. If you give a half-orc +X on a skill an orc will have to get +2X on that skill. If you want to make a difference between a half-orc raised by humans and a half-orc raised by orcs you also have to make the same difference by a half-elf. But if education of different races makes a difference to a player character think of an orc raised by humans. Does the orc gets the advantage of any favorite class... ? :) You can give a half-orc more advantages of one race of his parents but you do not justify this with their education. A correct cause is this half-orc has not only 50% of the genes of one of his parents, he has 51 or more % of this race. :) I like some of your ideas (toughness, Survival, etc.) but I dislike dropping the Cha penalty. Orcs and Half-orcs are not known for their diplomacy and their magic. A half-orc with Cha 18, raised by humans :), thinking of a bard or a rogue with many ranks in diplomacy or a sorcerer is not a character I want in one of my groups. :) [/QUOTE]
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