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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5644492" data-attributes="member: 35909">Well, he can take the feat for +2 still if he really wants to max out his bonus.  But he can still take Greater and get the +2 along with the other benefits, he's still adding his wisdom to CMB, and he can still use a tripping weapon like the Temple Sword (or even unarmed, though the enhancement progression he gets is kinda slow, he'd probably need to buy the Amulet of Mighty Highway Robbery) and boost up its enhancement and take weapon focus and so forth (since you apply all your attack bonuses with the tripping weapon on your CMB).I guess I figured most monks wouldn't really care about missing out on the +2.  A small price for broad access to all maneuvers.</blockquote>