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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 5790594" data-attributes="member: 1956">I am standing on "Sorcerer needs no more fixing" side.In my experience, both wizard and sorcerer have their own edge.Wizard has much better at learning and using skills. But having high Cha has it's own reward.Regarding the use of metamagic feats, except for Quicken spell, sorcerer simply wins. A sorcerer with good selection of spells known and metamagic feats tend to use almost all of his spell slots effectively. While a wizard tend to leave some of his prepared spell unused at the end of an adventuring day.And, PHB2 Alternative class feature and various Sorcerer only spells in later supplements have really bumped up Sorcerer.Also note that, when a character cannot have enough down time during a campaign, wizard class loses almost all the edges the class meant to have against sorcerer.When a wizard cannot take time to add spells on his book, he will end up having only 4 spells known per spell level, with fewer spell slots than a sorcerer. And in such a campaign, he cannot enjoy making magic items at all.Sorcerer and Wizard are two different classes and have different strength and weakness. When someone says Wizard is simply better than Sorcerer, I say that is wrong.</blockquote>