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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DrunkonDuty" data-source="post: 4819832" data-attributes="member: 54364">I use: the Tumble check replaces the Dex portion of AC. And give bonuses for the Mobility feat as others have mentioned. I also use the modifiers for terrain and mulitple foes as listed in skill description but apply them to the skill check: positive adders to the DC become negative adders to the skill check. It's possible for the this total to become a negative to the AC.  The character still gets bonuses to their AC from armour, rings of protection and what not. It means that the character is generally a lot harder to hit when tumbling. But if they start trying to tumble past lines of foes on difficult terrain they may find themselves becoming EASIER to hit. So the swashbuckly types have to use the skill in a considered manner but they don't suffer much for it. I like the idea that smaller opponents get a size bonus but might halve the bonus to +2 per category.</blockquote>