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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8424684" data-attributes="member: 83242">I agree with the above (except the Aspect of Bahamut).Some addition Pros for me:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Draconic gifts</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">elderbrain dragon</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">art for Bahamut</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">art in general</li>
</ul>I don't have the book yet, so I don't know all the lore.&nbsp; However, from what I have heard I am either neutral or positive on the lore.&nbsp; The one exception may be the comment about song and steel dragons possibly being a different types of dragons. Neutral. Love the changes to the Dragon Pantheon (from what I have seen so far).&nbsp; Look forward to see more.&nbsp; It fits much more in line with my idea of dragons.Agree, that is not a good look. Some cons for me:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Gemstone / moonstone dragon art.&nbsp; I generally don't like the design of these dragons.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mythic dragons. They nerfed the dragons a bit and/or didn't take the opportunity to make them more interesting.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aspects of Bahamut.&nbsp; See Mythic dragons</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aspect of Tiamat.&nbsp; Pretty much straight nerf of the OG Tiamat when it should have been an opportunity to really flex your design muscles.&nbsp; Tiamat is a very unique monster and they made it as about as vanilla as you can get for mythic CR 30 dragon deity. Trust me, I know Tiamat <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </li>
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[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 8424684, member: 83242"] I agree with the above (except the Aspect of Bahamut). Some addition Pros for me: [LIST] [*]Draconic gifts [*]elderbrain dragon [*]art for Bahamut [*]art in general [/LIST] I don't have the book yet, so I don't know all the lore. However, from what I have heard I am either neutral or positive on the lore. The one exception may be the comment about song and steel dragons possibly being a different types of dragons. Neutral. Love the changes to the Dragon Pantheon (from what I have seen so far). Look forward to see more. It fits much more in line with my idea of dragons. Agree, that is not a good look. Some cons for me: [LIST] [*]Gemstone / moonstone dragon art. I generally don't like the design of these dragons. [*]Mythic dragons. They nerfed the dragons a bit and/or didn't take the opportunity to make them more interesting. [*]Aspects of Bahamut. See Mythic dragons [*]Aspect of Tiamat. Pretty much straight nerf of the OG Tiamat when it should have been an opportunity to really flex your design muscles. Tiamat is a very unique monster and they made it as about as vanilla as you can get for mythic CR 30 dragon deity. Trust me, I know Tiamat ;) [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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