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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 8426313" data-attributes="member: 58172">Regarding the divine power source.I hope the 50th Anniversary core books updates the Cleric class to be strictly about &quot;cosmic forces&quot;. What is called a &quot;domain&quot; is the same thing as a cosmic force.Then.Let each setting define what a &quot;cosmic force&quot; is and how it works within this particular setting.Heh, I critique and mock the polytheology of Forgotten Realms. But I respect the polytheology of Theros − its iconoclast option is notable, and there is a jungian archetype vibe for each divinity. I feel Forgotten Realms does well to borrow ideas from the Theros setting.5e Eberron (unfortunately) canonized the Forgotten Realms gods. But Baker in one of the Enworld threads, offered that even tho Forgotten Realms gods factually exist, perhaps these creatures arent really &quot;gods&quot; and dont merit worship. This approach is similar to the iconoclasm of Theros. I would say, in the Eberron setting, the divine power source is explicitly the cosmic forces, where each culture attunes different forces.In Dark Sun, the cosmic forces are four elements plus the life of Athas as a kind of fifth element.DMs who like to worldbuild can define &quot;cosmic forces&quot; however they want.5e formulated the mechanic of a &quot;cosmic force&quot;. I find this mechanic extremely useful, and able to accommodate every D&amp;D tradition in every edition. The 5e cosmic force Cleric is more helpful than the 3e &quot;philosophical&quot; Cleric or existentially &quot;faith&quot; based Cleric, which feels too solipsistic, because the worldbuilding results of the cosmic force approach feel more plausibly &quot;sacred&quot;, and allows various settings to define it in their own ways.Some settings can leave the divine power source vague, leaving &quot;cosmic force&quot; undefined, similar to how the arcane power source remains vague. Other settings can define it precisely. Whatever makes sense for a setting concept.I hope the 50th Anniversary core books take advantage of the mechanic of &quot;cosmic forces&quot;. It is elegant. It is what the Cleric class of any kind of sacred tradition can utilize well for any kind of character concept and cosmological concept.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 8426313, member: 58172"] Regarding the divine power source. I hope the 50th Anniversary core books updates the Cleric class to be strictly about "cosmic forces". What is called a "domain" is the same thing as a cosmic force. Then. Let each setting define what a "cosmic force" is and how it works within this particular setting. Heh, I critique and mock the polytheology of Forgotten Realms. But I respect the polytheology of Theros − its iconoclast option is notable, and there is a jungian archetype vibe for each divinity. I feel Forgotten Realms does well to borrow ideas from the Theros setting. 5e Eberron (unfortunately) canonized the Forgotten Realms gods. But Baker in one of the Enworld threads, offered that even tho Forgotten Realms gods factually exist, perhaps these creatures arent really "gods" and dont merit worship. This approach is similar to the iconoclasm of Theros. I would say, in the Eberron setting, the divine power source is explicitly the cosmic forces, where each culture attunes different forces. In Dark Sun, the cosmic forces are four elements plus the life of Athas as a kind of fifth element. DMs who like to worldbuild can define "cosmic forces" however they want. 5e formulated the mechanic of a "cosmic force". I find this mechanic extremely useful, and able to accommodate every D&D tradition in every edition. The 5e cosmic force Cleric is more helpful than the 3e "philosophical" Cleric or existentially "faith" based Cleric, which feels too solipsistic, because the worldbuilding results of the cosmic force approach feel more plausibly "sacred", and allows various settings to define it in their own ways. Some settings can leave the divine power source vague, leaving "cosmic force" undefined, similar to how the arcane power source remains vague. Other settings can define it precisely. Whatever makes sense for a setting concept. I hope the 50th Anniversary core books take advantage of the mechanic of "cosmic forces". It is elegant. It is what the Cleric class of any kind of sacred tradition can utilize well for any kind of character concept and cosmological concept. [/QUOTE]

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