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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9085616" data-attributes="member: 6790260">This sounds outside my (intended) purview. (Trying for brevity for once!)&quot;Elevated appreciation&quot; sounds like Conceit &amp; Emulation. &quot;Tourism&quot; itself as Conceit: visiting another world. Narnia, Barsoom, a zillion isekai anime. It's widespread, popular, and separate. C|E covers a lot of ground, 'cause &quot;Conceit&quot; is diverse, just as &quot;Genre Fiction&quot; is.You can have high-energy &quot;process&quot; sim, it just isn't common (without computer help). Further, &quot;process&quot; sim focuses on accuracy, specificity, science-like predictability. It's about having a process that preserves...I guess &quot;authenticity.&quot; Hence my comparison to &quot;grand stategy&quot; games, but also flight sims (ideal: authentic, cockpit-like controls/setup.)Tourism, as Conceit, seems less about this authenticity, more about tactile, sensory stuff. You imagine really smelling the spices and camels, really hearing the music, really feeling hot desert winds. Etc. For this sensory feel to linger long, things must stay light, quick. G|S is highly compatible if, as you say, it doesn't bog down. S|A mixes poorly with the Tourism Conceit; V|I it depends.Don't see the &quot;story-telling&quot;/&quot;story-creating&quot; distinction. They sound synonymous.Classification's prime utility is focus and direction. I have always said my &quot;purposes&quot; are miscible (albeit variably.) I'd rather avoid over-emphasis on mixing, if only because it's new. Bright colors for now; blends for later. Nuance is like salt. Adding? Easy. Removing excess? Hard.Glad you like the food analogy (perhaps a first? Hah.) As said, mixing is great--but serving multiple masters has costs.Definitely outside my (intended) purview. Too meta, too universal. As you say, almost every game. That's a problem: not a target to shoot at, but better archery.Can an overall bad design still have this? Can a truly excellent design lack it? I argue no on both.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9085616, member: 6790260"] This sounds outside my (intended) purview. (Trying for brevity for once!) "Elevated appreciation" sounds like Conceit & Emulation. "Tourism" [I]itself[/I] as Conceit: visiting another world. Narnia, Barsoom, a zillion isekai anime. It's widespread, popular, and separate. C|E covers a [I]lot[/I] of ground, 'cause "Conceit" is diverse, just as "Genre Fiction" is. You can have high-energy "process" sim, it just isn't common (without computer help). Further, "process" sim focuses on accuracy, specificity, science-like predictability. It's about having a process that preserves...I guess "authenticity." Hence my comparison to "grand stategy" games, but also flight sims (ideal: authentic, cockpit-like controls/setup.) Tourism, as Conceit, seems less about this authenticity, more about tactile, sensory stuff. You imagine [I]really[/I] smelling the spices and camels, [I]really[/I] hearing the music, [I]really[/I] feeling hot desert winds. Etc. For this sensory feel to linger long, things must stay light, quick. G|S is highly compatible [I]if[/I], as you say, it doesn't bog down. S|A mixes poorly with the Tourism Conceit; V|I it depends. Don't see the "story-telling"/"story-creating" distinction. They sound synonymous. Classification's prime utility is focus and direction. I have always said my "purposes" are miscible (albeit variably.) I'd rather avoid over-emphasis on mixing, if only because it's [I]new[/I]. Bright colors for now; blends for later. Nuance is like salt. Adding? Easy. Removing excess? [I]Hard[/I]. Glad you like the food analogy (perhaps a first? Hah.) As said, mixing is great--but serving multiple masters has costs. [I]Definitely[/I] outside my (intended) purview. Too meta, too universal. As you say, almost every game. That's a problem: not a [I]target[/I] to shoot at, but [I]better archery[/I]. Can an overall bad design still have this? Can a truly excellent design [I]lack[/I] it? I argue no on both. [/QUOTE]

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