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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1651460" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>I am not sure about 2) if they would stack when choosing a different type of damage... but the rest seems right to me. Potentially quite a lot of damage :\</p><p></p><p>If it doesn't stack with itself, the average damage is probably quite close to a Fireball or Lightning Bolt, but it depends a lot about your chances to hit.</p><p></p><p>The sequence of standard actions is like:</p><p>1- cast FA</p><p>2- cast TK and thrust arrows 1-10</p><p>3- cast TK and thrust arrows 11-20</p><p>4- cast TK and thrust arrows 21-30</p><p>5- cast TK and thrust arrows 31-40</p><p>6- cast TK and thrust arrows 41-50</p><p>repeat</p><p></p><p>That is potentially 50d4+50d6 in 6 rounds (avg 300, or 50/round), for the cost of a 3rd level spell and five 5th level spells. That damage assumes however that you are going to always hit, but since you likely aren't, the true average it could be much less.</p><p>In the same time and for the same spell slots you could have cast one normal Fireball/LBolt and five Empowered Fireballs/LBolts for a potential 8,5 x 10d6 (avg 297.5, very close!), with the real average being this time dependent on the target's Reflex save. But wait... this way you could have hit more targets in the area!</p><p></p><p>If you let it stack, for example if you cast FA once Fire and once Frost, the new base damage is 1d4+2d6, at the cost of 1 extra 3rd level spell and 1 extra standard action before TK. The sequence of standard actions is like:</p><p>1- cast FA</p><p>2- cast FA</p><p>3- cast TK and thrust arrows 1-10</p><p>4- cast TK and thrust arrows 11-20</p><p>5- cast TK and thrust arrows 21-30</p><p>6- cast TK and thrust arrows 31-40</p><p>7- cast TK and thrust arrows 41-50</p><p>repeat</p><p></p><p>That's a total of 50d4+100d6 in 7 rounds (avg 475, or 68/round).</p><p>Cast FA 3 times and that's 50d4+150d6 in 8 rounds (avg 650, or 81/round).</p><p>Cast FA 4 times and that's 50d4+200d6 in 9 rounds (avg 825, or 92/round).</p><p>Cast FA 5 times and that's 50d4+250d6 in 10 rounds (avg 1000, or 100/round).</p><p></p><p>I am a bit flaky today, it's possible that my calculations are all off <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1651460, member: 1465"] I am not sure about 2) if they would stack when choosing a different type of damage... but the rest seems right to me. Potentially quite a lot of damage :\ If it doesn't stack with itself, the average damage is probably quite close to a Fireball or Lightning Bolt, but it depends a lot about your chances to hit. The sequence of standard actions is like: 1- cast FA 2- cast TK and thrust arrows 1-10 3- cast TK and thrust arrows 11-20 4- cast TK and thrust arrows 21-30 5- cast TK and thrust arrows 31-40 6- cast TK and thrust arrows 41-50 repeat That is potentially 50d4+50d6 in 6 rounds (avg 300, or 50/round), for the cost of a 3rd level spell and five 5th level spells. That damage assumes however that you are going to always hit, but since you likely aren't, the true average it could be much less. In the same time and for the same spell slots you could have cast one normal Fireball/LBolt and five Empowered Fireballs/LBolts for a potential 8,5 x 10d6 (avg 297.5, very close!), with the real average being this time dependent on the target's Reflex save. But wait... this way you could have hit more targets in the area! If you let it stack, for example if you cast FA once Fire and once Frost, the new base damage is 1d4+2d6, at the cost of 1 extra 3rd level spell and 1 extra standard action before TK. The sequence of standard actions is like: 1- cast FA 2- cast FA 3- cast TK and thrust arrows 1-10 4- cast TK and thrust arrows 11-20 5- cast TK and thrust arrows 21-30 6- cast TK and thrust arrows 31-40 7- cast TK and thrust arrows 41-50 repeat That's a total of 50d4+100d6 in 7 rounds (avg 475, or 68/round). Cast FA 3 times and that's 50d4+150d6 in 8 rounds (avg 650, or 81/round). Cast FA 4 times and that's 50d4+200d6 in 9 rounds (avg 825, or 92/round). Cast FA 5 times and that's 50d4+250d6 in 10 rounds (avg 1000, or 100/round). I am a bit flaky today, it's possible that my calculations are all off :p [/QUOTE]
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