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Message: <blockquote data-quote="babomb" data-source="post: 1660660" data-attributes="member: 1316">The argument for arrows not used "in their intended manner" refers to +2 arrows, not those under the effects of Flame Arrow.Nope, they're the same.Also the same (but they would both stack since they're both unnamed bonuses).Notice it only says "<s>ome". You might also notice that daggers have a range increment. They are designed to be usable as thrown weapons, as are, e.g., spears and throwing axes. Therefore, I submit that the intention is that this rule only applies to melee weapons with listed range increments. A holy avenger flies about as well as a nonmagical longsword (but the holy avenger still does 2d6 extra damage to evil creatures). Further, the rule specifically mentions melee weapons that can be used as ranged weapons, and therefore, I submit that the intention is that the reverse is not true. A +2 arrow used as a melee weapon is no better than a normal arrow. A +1 flaming arrow used as a melee weapon, however, still does 1d6 extra damage, assuming that its flaming power has been activated.</s><s></s><s>That said, the RAW do not explicitly state that the bonuses do not apply when using Telekinesis. However, a DM would be well within his rights to rule that the bonus does not apply, particularly given the precedent in the above rule.</s></blockquote>