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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bad Paper" data-source="post: 1840153" data-attributes="member: 24674">This is what I wanted to see.  Is that in a glossary somewhere?  I haven't had the chance to look this up.  Busy busy these days.So if the question is whether the spell itself does damage, then can my invisible wizard use Telekinesis to push someone off a cliff?  The spell itself does no damage.  I guess that's kind of an attack...  What if my invisible wizard uses Control Water to drown someone?Then, regarding the second post in this series, if my invisible wizard drops a rock down a hole, and accidentally hits a creature that was down there?  What if it's a very small (harmless) rock?</blockquote>