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<blockquote data-quote="sunshadow21" data-source="post: 6027601" data-attributes="member: 6667193"><p>Your reasoning on this particular instance isn't all that much of a stretch, even if I don't personally agree with it, but some of the folks on the other thread never let up even when presented with other scenarios with other edge spells. Every single time, they insisted that one must follow the absolute literal reading of the spell, which has problems of it's own, such as how to explain how the spell is supposed to recognize between friend and foe that finely. That is the part that annoyed me, and the reason I tend to dislike the path that using your logic sets up. It's not bad in and of itself, but it tends to lead either to further headaches as each side is forced to cut the edge thinner and thinner or everyone ignoring large chunks of the rulebook because no one can agree on how to interpret them, and it's easier simply not to deal with it. Whereas grouping Flaming Sphere with the other summons does nothing to add to the overall power of either spell (or if it does, let's face it, Flaming Sphere tends to need it), stays within the intent of the spell, and provides a more compromise friendly solution, even if it isn't the absolutely technically accurate one by RAW. Neither solution is better in the immediate instance, but one does better of keeping long term peace on terms that both player and DM can agree on.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="sunshadow21, post: 6027601, member: 6667193"] Your reasoning on this particular instance isn't all that much of a stretch, even if I don't personally agree with it, but some of the folks on the other thread never let up even when presented with other scenarios with other edge spells. Every single time, they insisted that one must follow the absolute literal reading of the spell, which has problems of it's own, such as how to explain how the spell is supposed to recognize between friend and foe that finely. That is the part that annoyed me, and the reason I tend to dislike the path that using your logic sets up. It's not bad in and of itself, but it tends to lead either to further headaches as each side is forced to cut the edge thinner and thinner or everyone ignoring large chunks of the rulebook because no one can agree on how to interpret them, and it's easier simply not to deal with it. Whereas grouping Flaming Sphere with the other summons does nothing to add to the overall power of either spell (or if it does, let's face it, Flaming Sphere tends to need it), stays within the intent of the spell, and provides a more compromise friendly solution, even if it isn't the absolutely technically accurate one by RAW. Neither solution is better in the immediate instance, but one does better of keeping long term peace on terms that both player and DM can agree on. [/QUOTE]

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