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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 3154093" data-attributes="member: 9789"><p>Only if you're invisible. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's a whole direction of thinking that is just out-thinking itself: it's a spell. Your spell is attacking someone directly. The spell causes damage. The technicality you're introducing here does not - in my opinion - matter.</p><p></p><p>But then again, the point of your bringing all this up is, I believe, trying to over-complicate the issue in order to show the futility of the opposing argument. (Correct me if I'm wrong, however.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>For what its worth, I agree with TYPO's interpretation of the 5 situations Hypersmurf proposed earlier in this thread: "yes; yes, but only when the bead bursts; no; yes; no." But, that's because I still fall into the very nebulous "whether or not something was intended to be an attack" camp, which is an interpretation I admit, but makes the rule much more clear. However, I think the RAW interpretation probably supports Hypersmurf's answer of (what I believe to be) "all yes," and "DBF breaks invis when cast."</p><p></p><p>I'm also of the mind that all of the sort of "logical extreme" cases that folks are introducing - like reading <em>explosive runes</em> several days later or hurting yourself to break somone's invis spell - are all simply incorrect. The spell was not intended to be defensively abused in that manner, and I can't think of a better word to describe those kinds of actions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 3154093, member: 9789"] Only if you're invisible. ;) That's a whole direction of thinking that is just out-thinking itself: it's a spell. Your spell is attacking someone directly. The spell causes damage. The technicality you're introducing here does not - in my opinion - matter. But then again, the point of your bringing all this up is, I believe, trying to over-complicate the issue in order to show the futility of the opposing argument. (Correct me if I'm wrong, however.) For what its worth, I agree with TYPO's interpretation of the 5 situations Hypersmurf proposed earlier in this thread: "yes; yes, but only when the bead bursts; no; yes; no." But, that's because I still fall into the very nebulous "whether or not something was intended to be an attack" camp, which is an interpretation I admit, but makes the rule much more clear. However, I think the RAW interpretation probably supports Hypersmurf's answer of (what I believe to be) "all yes," and "DBF breaks invis when cast." I'm also of the mind that all of the sort of "logical extreme" cases that folks are introducing - like reading [I]explosive runes[/I] several days later or hurting yourself to break somone's invis spell - are all simply incorrect. The spell was not intended to be defensively abused in that manner, and I can't think of a better word to describe those kinds of actions. [/QUOTE]
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