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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2403593" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>My goodness- you really ARE a strict constructionist!</p><p></p><p>There are other fires than those- that list was clearly meant to be a non-exhaustive list. Otherwise a Character could pleasantly stroll through a burning building, a small campfire, could place a match in their hair, wander through a forest fire, hold a candle to their crotch, cover themselves with burning alcohol, read a burning book or scroll, or touch red-hot metal or coals without fear of being set on fire.</p><p></p><p>AND, since the rule says "Characters" and not "Characters and Creatures" there are going to be some monsters that are immune to fire without even having that immunity listed (the definitions of the 2 terms in the PHB (p306) say there is an overlap, but not <strong><em>identity</em></strong>, between the 2 terms).</p><p></p><p>Somehow, I think the writers expect readers to use a modicum of common sense, what we lawyers call the "Reasonable Person" rule of reading a law.</p><p></p><p>Lets be real here- <strong>Touching a mummy with a live, open flame of any kind should ignite it, and a lit torch clearly is a live, open flame.</strong></p><p></p><p>BTW- you now have an inconsistency in the RAW- the mummy has vulnerability to fire, and can be ignited by a "noninstantaneous magic fire"...which is the kind of fire that the flaming abiltiy grants.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, you haven't adequately addressed the "Flaming Burst"-fu that someone dropped a bit earlier:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>(emphasis mine)</p><p></p><p>The writer clearly points out that #1)Flaming Burst is an improved version of the Flaming ability, and 2) the damage <em>comes from the flaming ability</em>.</p><p></p><p>And the same phraseology is used in the descriptions for Frost Burst and Shocking Burts weapons- the extra damage comes from the magical ability.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2403593, member: 19675"] My goodness- you really ARE a strict constructionist! There are other fires than those- that list was clearly meant to be a non-exhaustive list. Otherwise a Character could pleasantly stroll through a burning building, a small campfire, could place a match in their hair, wander through a forest fire, hold a candle to their crotch, cover themselves with burning alcohol, read a burning book or scroll, or touch red-hot metal or coals without fear of being set on fire. AND, since the rule says "Characters" and not "Characters and Creatures" there are going to be some monsters that are immune to fire without even having that immunity listed (the definitions of the 2 terms in the PHB (p306) say there is an overlap, but not [B][I]identity[/I][/B], between the 2 terms). Somehow, I think the writers expect readers to use a modicum of common sense, what we lawyers call the "Reasonable Person" rule of reading a law. Lets be real here- [B]Touching a mummy with a live, open flame of any kind should ignite it, and a lit torch clearly is a live, open flame.[/B] BTW- you now have an inconsistency in the RAW- the mummy has vulnerability to fire, and can be ignited by a "noninstantaneous magic fire"...which is the kind of fire that the flaming abiltiy grants. Furthermore, you haven't adequately addressed the "Flaming Burst"-fu that someone dropped a bit earlier: (emphasis mine) The writer clearly points out that #1)Flaming Burst is an improved version of the Flaming ability, and 2) the damage [I]comes from the flaming ability[/I]. And the same phraseology is used in the descriptions for Frost Burst and Shocking Burts weapons- the extra damage comes from the magical ability. [/QUOTE]
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