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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2406025" data-attributes="member: 23094">Unless, somehow, a flaming whip is no longer a whip, it follows all the rules for whips.Unless you care to rule that someone with Weapon Focus (Whip) does not get a bonus on attack rolls when using a Flaming Whip?* Note that it doesn't need to make any exceptions based on weapon types.  D&D is a system based on inheritance.  If I make a new kind of Baatezu, I don't need to specify all his basic traits.  All I do is note that he's an Outsider with the Lawful and Evil subtypes and the Baatezu traits, and he's covered.Similarly, if I make a flaming whip, I don't need to specifically call out all the whip rules - they're inherited based on the fact that it's a flaming whip and not a flaming sword.Consider the magic weapon creation process.  In order to even make a flaming whip, you must start with a masterwork whip.Does a masterwork whip follow all the rules for whips?  Yes.You then must enhance it with at least a +1 enhancement bonus before it can be given any special abilities at all.Does a +1 whip follow all the rules for whips?  Yes.You may then add the flaming special ability to the +1 whip.Does a flaming whip +1 follow all the rules for whips?  Yes.If it doesn't, why doesn't it, and where did the change occur?</blockquote>