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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 754895" data-attributes="member: 1118">I think there are couple of things here.&nbsp; By the rules, I think it can be argued that you could flank while invisible and at the same time suffer AoO while invisible.&nbsp; However, many people find it illogical to allow AoO against someone if you can't see them take the AoO causing action.&nbsp; That same group should, to be consistent, also rule that the invisible person can't flank (a - the defender has no idea that he is being flanked, b -&nbsp; the other attacker doesn't know where he is to coordinate his attacks).Perhaps, once the defender becomes aware of the invisible attacker he spends so much effort to try and locate the invisible attacker that he's sufficiently distracted to be considered flanked regardless of where the invisible creature is (though that would get really messy - invisible guy attacks once and then moves away leaving the defender flanked until he realizes the invisible attacker has left? - and definitely be a house rule)Maybe only if the invisible person attacks first do the other's get the flanking bonus? Hmmm - this definitely isn't cut and dried as I can imagine scenarios where he should flank and others where he can't.&nbsp; I think I would go with a flanking bonus to the other guy if the invisible flanker hits first but nothing to the invisible guy if his ally hits first (the defender is already as bad off with repect to the invisible attackers attack as he can be anyway - though it would get weird if the defender was a barbarian).IceBear</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 754895, member: 1118"] I think there are couple of things here. By the rules, I think it can be argued that you could flank while invisible and at the same time suffer AoO while invisible. However, many people find it illogical to allow AoO against someone if you can't see them take the AoO causing action. That same group should, to be consistent, also rule that the invisible person can't flank (a - the defender has no idea that he is being flanked, b - the other attacker doesn't know where he is to coordinate his attacks). Perhaps, once the defender becomes aware of the invisible attacker he spends so much effort to try and locate the invisible attacker that he's sufficiently distracted to be considered flanked regardless of where the invisible creature is (though that would get really messy - invisible guy attacks once and then moves away leaving the defender flanked until he realizes the invisible attacker has left? - and definitely be a house rule) Maybe only if the invisible person attacks first do the other's get the flanking bonus? Hmmm - this definitely isn't cut and dried as I can imagine scenarios where he should flank and others where he can't. I think I would go with a flanking bonus to the other guy if the invisible flanker hits first but nothing to the invisible guy if his ally hits first (the defender is already as bad off with repect to the invisible attackers attack as he can be anyway - though it would get weird if the defender was a barbarian). IceBear [/QUOTE]

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