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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MarauderX" data-source="post: 1316050" data-attributes="member: 9990">I like the idea of an invisible dude never giving flanking bonuses.  It makes sense after he attacks and turns visible, but not if he is still invisible as it would give flanking bonuses to everyone nearby.  The defender would have no idea where the invisible attacker is, and everyone that he is facing gets flanking bonuses?!?!  Nah.  Now imagine the invisible attacker is silenced too, so he can stride from one side of the defender to the other using 5' steps without being detected.  Two others are engaged in melee with the defender, who gets the flanking bonus from the invisible guy now?  Everyone?  Just the guy who was last opposite the invisible guy?  As a player, as a DM, I like the ruling of invisible guys not giving a flanking bonus.  IMO.</blockquote>