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<blockquote data-quote="ComradeGnull" data-source="post: 5736723" data-attributes="member: 6685694">In the first situation, you and the other party competed to see who was fastest and you won.&nbsp; You pre-empted his action as soon as he began it because you had the initiative.&nbsp; In the second scenario, who was fastest hadn't been resolved yet- you were waiting to catch the coin, and so was your friend.&nbsp; The initiative roll resolves whose reflexes are faster.&nbsp; If there is no surprise, the assumption is that both parties realized that the other was going to try something (an attack, generally), and so quickness of reflexes resolves who gets to act first.If you are ambushing someone, there might be surprise, so it's Perception vs. Stealth.&nbsp; Attacking an ally might be something like Sense Motive vs. Stealth or Sleight of Hand.&nbsp; If the attacker fails that roll, that means they had an indication of what was coming- your friend saw you tense to get ready to catch the coin- and now it is essentially a test of reflexes, or a roll to see which of two prepared actions gets precedence.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ComradeGnull, post: 5736723, member: 6685694"] In the first situation, you and the other party competed to see who was fastest and you won. You pre-empted his action as soon as he began it because you had the initiative. In the second scenario, who was fastest hadn't been resolved yet- you were waiting to catch the coin, and so was your friend. The initiative roll resolves whose reflexes are faster. If there is no surprise, the assumption is that both parties realized that the other was going to try something (an attack, generally), and so quickness of reflexes resolves who gets to act first. If you are ambushing someone, there might be surprise, so it's Perception vs. Stealth. Attacking an ally might be something like Sense Motive vs. Stealth or Sleight of Hand. If the attacker fails that roll, that means they had an indication of what was coming- your friend saw you tense to get ready to catch the coin- and now it is essentially a test of reflexes, or a roll to see which of two prepared actions gets precedence. [/QUOTE]

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