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Flat-footed, surprise and initative.
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<blockquote data-quote="Friend of the Dork" data-source="post: 5736897" data-attributes="member: 91954"><p>That's not a mexican standoff, that's a "freeze sucka!"-standoff. In this case A should have a definite advantage, as it is assumed he had surprised and used it for a ready action instead of shooting. If not, B should be able to have a weapon ready as well. Afaik you CAN ready a charge. </p><p></p><p>As for the equitability (is that a word?), I think it's mostly for sneak attack. "Flat-footed" does not exist in other systems, and did not exist until 3rd edition D&D. Removing it altogether would be fair if not for Rogues. </p><p></p><p>If both sides have ready actions, there will be an actual standoff as no one does anything other than ready. Strangely enough, if one of the suddenly decides to make a move, the other will automatically go first (assuming initiative has already been rolled). </p><p></p><p>If two characters tries to act on the same time (ready actions, Delay), then I got a suggestion from one of my players: Use the rule about same initiative. The one with the highest Initiative modifier acts first, if there is a tie they roll opposed initiative tests.</p><p></p><p>As a counter-argument, movies are full of examples where the hero, despite having enemies ready with weapons to shoot hostages or other nasty things, manage to preempt them and save the day. In my book though, this requires a bluff check etc. to distract the foe, thus nullifying the ready action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Friend of the Dork, post: 5736897, member: 91954"] That's not a mexican standoff, that's a "freeze sucka!"-standoff. In this case A should have a definite advantage, as it is assumed he had surprised and used it for a ready action instead of shooting. If not, B should be able to have a weapon ready as well. Afaik you CAN ready a charge. As for the equitability (is that a word?), I think it's mostly for sneak attack. "Flat-footed" does not exist in other systems, and did not exist until 3rd edition D&D. Removing it altogether would be fair if not for Rogues. If both sides have ready actions, there will be an actual standoff as no one does anything other than ready. Strangely enough, if one of the suddenly decides to make a move, the other will automatically go first (assuming initiative has already been rolled). If two characters tries to act on the same time (ready actions, Delay), then I got a suggestion from one of my players: Use the rule about same initiative. The one with the highest Initiative modifier acts first, if there is a tie they roll opposed initiative tests. As a counter-argument, movies are full of examples where the hero, despite having enemies ready with weapons to shoot hostages or other nasty things, manage to preempt them and save the day. In my book though, this requires a bluff check etc. to distract the foe, thus nullifying the ready action. [/QUOTE]
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