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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5626186" data-attributes="member: 92305">No.&nbsp;What if the thug stepped out with a knife...and preceeded to give it to the PC saying, &quot;I finally found you.&nbsp; This was your father's stilletto.&nbsp; I have grave news.&nbsp; He's dead.&nbsp; And, he left you...this.&quot;&nbsp;Or, what if the PC decided not to fight the thug because the PC was only 1st level, and the player had no idea what level the thug was.&nbsp;Or maybe the PC was low on hit points and didn't want risk losing his character there in that ally.&nbsp;Or, maybe, the PC knew that one of his buddies wasn't far behind him, and he thought he'd try to &quot;stall&quot; the thug until the odds were better on the PC's side.&nbsp;Or, maybe, the player decided to try to roleplay and reason with the thug rather than go straight into combat.&nbsp;The point is:&nbsp; There are many reasons not to start combat at that point.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I think I was editing my post above a second time when you were posting.&nbsp; You may want to read EDIT 2, above, and check out the combat example in the DMG.&nbsp;You'll find that it is a lot more like the way I am describing things than&nbsp; your take on them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 5626186, member: 92305"] No. What if the thug stepped out with a knife...and preceeded to give it to the PC saying, "I finally found you. This was your father's stilletto. I have grave news. He's dead. And, he left you...this." Or, what if the PC decided not to fight the thug because the PC was only 1st level, and the player had no idea what level the thug was. Or maybe the PC was low on hit points and didn't want risk losing his character there in that ally. Or, maybe, the PC knew that one of his buddies wasn't far behind him, and he thought he'd try to "stall" the thug until the odds were better on the PC's side. Or, maybe, the player decided to try to roleplay and reason with the thug rather than go straight into combat. The point is: There are many reasons not to start combat at that point. I think I was editing my post above a second time when you were posting. You may want to read EDIT 2, above, and check out the combat example in the DMG. You'll find that it is a lot more like the way I am describing things than your take on them. [/QUOTE]

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