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<blockquote data-quote="Arrowhawk" data-source="post: 5631541" data-attributes="member: 6679551">Given Skips use of &quot;put off your turn,&quot; it's possible that's exactly what they meant it to do. &nbsp;Conversely, the RAW's use of &quot;lower your initiative result&quot; would suggests you don't have the option to just hang out and act when you feel like it. Instead, we'll just say you rolled a 2 instead of 28....in fact, the game says you can explicitly state what you want your new &quot;count/number&quot; to be.&nbsp;I would agree with the general sentiment that it seems like you should just be able to wait till you're ready to act....but why wouldn't that just be a foregoing of your turn? Continuing that thought...I might also agree that the game says, your moment of indecision costs you the opportunity to act...you're not flat footed, but you did nothing. Thus the game's definition of &quot;Inaction&quot; in the SRD. In other words, it wouldn't seem legal to have your character wait till the very end of a six second turn....then do all the things you would normally do in six seconds. Why is that different than actually rolling a lower Init? Because a lower Init would mean you're still FF'd.&nbsp;&nbsp; This could be specifically why the Ready action is considered a Standard Action.&nbsp; To penalize your character for becomeing aware earlier in the round.&nbsp;So your in-game options would be: 1) You act; 2) You prepare to act; or 3) You do nothing. Delay would then be a metagame option to simply swap out your roll for something lower. But I freely admit that Skip deciding to suddenly define Delay specifically as a &quot;nonaction&quot; moves it out of the metagame-scape and squarely into the character-scape. There would be no need to do this if it were strictly metagame. Of course this assumes Skip is even thinking about metagame versus game. I could still see Skip saying we aren't removing the FF status if you Delay under the same tortured logic (and need to empower Sneak Attack) that one loses a &quot;bonus&quot; to Dex, while a penalty still applies.&nbsp;Round and round we go....&nbsp;Thanks Skip. Next time why don't you just poke my eyes out and I'll have an easier time of figuring out these rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arrowhawk, post: 5631541, member: 6679551"] Given Skips use of "put off your turn," it's possible that's exactly what they meant it to do. Conversely, the RAW's use of "lower your initiative result" would suggests you don't have the option to just hang out and act when you feel like it. Instead, we'll just say you rolled a 2 instead of 28....in fact, the game says you can explicitly state what you want your new "count/number" to be. I would agree with the general sentiment that it seems like you should just be able to wait till you're ready to act....but why wouldn't that just be a foregoing of your turn? Continuing that thought...I might also agree that the game says, your moment of indecision costs you the opportunity to act...you're not flat footed, but you did nothing. Thus the game's definition of "Inaction" in the SRD. In other words, it wouldn't seem legal to have your [I]character [/I]wait till the very end of a six second turn....then do all the things you would normally do in six seconds. Why is that different than actually rolling a lower Init? Because a lower Init would mean you're still FF'd. [I]This could be specifically why the Ready action is considered a Standard Action. To penalize your character for becomeing aware earlier in the round.[/I] So your in-game options would be: 1) You act; 2) You prepare to act; or 3) You do nothing. Delay would then be a metagame option to simply swap out your roll for something lower. But I freely admit that Skip deciding to suddenly define Delay specifically as a "nonaction" moves it out of the metagame-scape and squarely into the [I]character-[/I]scape. There would be no need to do this if it were strictly metagame. Of course this assumes Skip is even thinking about metagame versus game. I could still see Skip saying we aren't removing the FF status if you Delay under the same tortured logic (and need to empower Sneak Attack) that one loses a "bonus" to Dex, while a penalty still applies. Round and round we go.... Thanks Skip. Next time why don't you just poke my eyes out and I'll have an easier time of figuring out these rules. [/QUOTE]

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