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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4278741" data-attributes="member: 40961">1. Sunburst doesn't make healing surges &quot;not important&quot; at higher levels.&nbsp; A level 27 fighter has hit points of 171 + initial constitution score, assuming no other relevant feats or modifiers.&nbsp; Sunburst can heal him for 10+Wis+Cha, so about... lets say 25.&nbsp; His healing surge value would be expected to be over 45.&nbsp; At absolute best, sunburst is going to &quot;top off&quot; his hit points between combats.2. I feel bad for Digital M@.&nbsp; His mistake was one of culture shock.&nbsp; In Real World, a player who uses the exploits discussed at the beginning of the thread (carting around a goblin in manacles, untying it and handing it a knife, then clubbing it unconscious for minor hit point gains, then repeating the process 5 or 6 times over the course of an hour until the party is healed), is a disruptive player who, in most games, is told to shape up or not to come back.&nbsp; In Internet World, people who worry about that are grand philosophers with Weighty Opinions.&nbsp; Digital M@ thought he was in Real World, and talking to a troll.&nbsp; But he was in Internet World, and that makes him the troll.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4278741, member: 40961"] 1. Sunburst doesn't make healing surges "not important" at higher levels. A level 27 fighter has hit points of 171 + initial constitution score, assuming no other relevant feats or modifiers. Sunburst can heal him for 10+Wis+Cha, so about... lets say 25. His healing surge value would be expected to be over 45. At absolute best, sunburst is going to "top off" his hit points between combats. 2. I feel bad for Digital M@. His mistake was one of culture shock. In Real World, a player who uses the exploits discussed at the beginning of the thread (carting around a goblin in manacles, untying it and handing it a knife, then clubbing it unconscious for minor hit point gains, then repeating the process 5 or 6 times over the course of an hour until the party is healed), is a disruptive player who, in most games, is told to shape up or not to come back. In Internet World, people who worry about that are grand philosophers with Weighty Opinions. Digital M@ thought he was in Real World, and talking to a troll. But he was in Internet World, and that makes him the troll. [/QUOTE]

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