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<blockquote data-quote="alanpossible" data-source="post: 4280685" data-attributes="member: 67772">I think &quot;credible threat&quot; is even mechanically definable under the rules. Clearly, if they're a credible threat, you could make an encounter out of them.The DMG suggests that using monsters 2 or 3 levels lower than the level of the players would not be a threat; regardless of how many such monsters you use (similarly, I think you can use monsters up to 7 levels higher, off the top of my head).On top of that, you can use the XP of the monster to determine what level of encounter it would make versus the entire party. A first level minion is 25 xp which is 20 times lower than the XP needed for a single encounter for 5 players. If they're unarmed, unarmoured, damaged, etc. then I'd start shaving further XP off.Again, I think you are advised to use encounters no easier than 2-3 levels below that of the players.So a bar fight with 2-3 human minions...no. Not a credible threat for a party of level 1 adventurers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="alanpossible, post: 4280685, member: 67772"] I think "credible threat" is even mechanically definable under the rules. Clearly, if they're a credible threat, you could make an encounter out of them. The DMG suggests that using monsters 2 or 3 levels lower than the level of the players would not be a threat; regardless of how many such monsters you use (similarly, I think you can use monsters up to 7 levels higher, off the top of my head). On top of that, you can use the XP of the monster to determine what level of encounter it would make versus the entire party. A first level minion is 25 xp which is 20 times lower than the XP needed for a single encounter for 5 players. If they're unarmed, unarmoured, damaged, etc. then I'd start shaving further XP off. Again, I think you are advised to use encounters no easier than 2-3 levels below that of the players. So a bar fight with 2-3 human minions...no. Not a credible threat for a party of level 1 adventurers. [/QUOTE]

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