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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 831744" data-attributes="member: 813">I was thinking more about the horrible hit you would take if you took 2 of these classes. Taking two of these classes would give you two 1/1 classes that you could NEVER get rid of or improve. That means if you want to take two normal classes, like my rog/sor you could not raise one of the classes above 2 without horrible xp penalties 7/3/1/1 is 40% penalty for humans and I have no idea how bad for an elf 80%? 100%?Like all other limited classes it should not contribute to multiclassing restrictions. As long as the saves and bab are no more than +2 in one save and +1 in BAB, it is not a problem.On the original thread someone said someone could take 4 of these and get +8 on a save. well you can do the same thing with a bab1/ftr1/rgr1/clr1 so why is that a problem in the flavor classes.I do think some of these classes are a bit heavy. If I were editing it, I'd tone down several of the classes. I'd also get rid of many of the permanent class skills. Each skill made permanent is like half a feat in my mind. Move it closer to the occupations in d20 modern where you get to choose 1 or 2 from a list of 4-6.Could all of the original posters of material chime in: (I see Iron Chef, TeeSeeJay,  Frostmarrow, HalfElfSorcerer, handforged (I love the touched), The Proconsul, Graf, demiurge1138). I'd need you designate your work as OGC (or point out the original source if you are not the original author (such as in case of the Noble)) and I would need your legal name since Throwing Dice Games does not take over copyright from its author's works. I like to see this end up on my Freestuff page. In its current state, cleaned in my normal layout, this is 4-5 pages + OGL. (Probalby is about the right length for magazine article publication.) I expect an extra page or so from giving flavor text to the entries that lack it: gladiator, legionaire, pirate, slaver, touched, etc.</blockquote>

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