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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GlaziusF" data-source="post: 4462789" data-attributes="member: 74166">I dunno. The asphalt court down the block with the chain-link fence doesn't have a shot clock. The thing about the shot clock is, the guy who came up with it looked at games where players weren't being ball-hogging foul-drawing turtle-men and said "okay, 120 shots seems to make for a pretty exciting game, let's see what happens when you force that number". The shot clock isn't there to make the game MORE fun. Players can do that just fine on their own. It's to prevent the existence of things like win-loss records and championship trophies from having consequences that make the game LESS fun. In short, it prevents a degenerate but winning strategy.It's a good thing I'm not making that claim, then.My claim, she goes like this: when all there was was old basketball, players didn't have as much fun and fewer people watched than when all there was was NEW basketball. Of course, there could be other explanations then "it's the shot clock". The rules on fouls were slightly revised at the time as well. And who knows? Maybe alien social scientists from another planet dispatched secret operatives to talk up basketball at the same time New Basketball was debuting.But my claim is: the shot clock made basketball a better sport for league play.Yeah, that's a rider I should probably have attached earlier. Tons of people come to see the Harlem Globetrotters and they put the shot clock the same place they put the REST of the rule book.Still though. If you want to challenge that claim, put up a compelling counter-argument.Price doesn't matter if you can't buy what you want at all. And picture wasn't important enough for enough people to sink the extra money into buying another player.Would you like to bring up Edison's record player? We can talk SO MUCH about Edison's record player.Also, is DVD "better" than VHS, or just "more widely adopted"? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />No arguments are yellow.No chocolate is yellow.Therefore all arguments are chocolate! That's what I call fallicious.Can we leave "fallacious" behind? It's a yellow flag for the educated to throw to protect the unwary, but we're all educated here. It's either right or wrong to have that equals sign there. If it's wrong, make that thing true on one side and false on the other. Don't just say "fallacious" and walk away.</blockquote>

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